On Tue, Aug 5, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Larry Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From what I can see it has been.
>
> You're speaking from the viewpoint of someone who agrees with the majority.
> Look at it this way, you're a Muslim student and you walk by that assembly
> with students, teachers, and administration in a worship service.

What's the impression here- that its an officially sanctioned event. And
> that in and of itself goes directly against the constitution.


I see your point, but what about the rights of the teachers? To turn this
back around on you, what about a Muslim teacher who, on her break, wishes to
join a group of Muslim students who have voluntarily formed a prayer circle
during recess?

Should she not be allowed to? Doesn't our constitution say that she is
guaranteed the right to attend that prayer service?



> Same with bible readings over the school PA or just before school sporting
> events.


No, see, I do NOT see that as a the same thing. Prayers should NOT be read
over the PA or before events who's purpose for gathering is OTHER than a
religious ceremony.

If I go to a school football game, I should not have to participate in a
prayer over the PA. BUT, if i attend a meeting of the Hindu club, where
they've spelled out that their group intends to practice aspects of the
Hindu faith, then by all means, I should expect a prayer.

The strong implication here is that these are government sponsored events.
> Ergo that student's rights are being violated.


I think a distinction has to be drawn, don't you? What constitutes a
"government sponsored event"? The students have the right to expect that
their school will not impose any belief system upon them, but they also have
the right to expect that their own personal belief systems...will be
respected.

We have to allow for both, if we truly wish to have both freedom of
religion, and be free FROM religion....as a state.


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