On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Loathe wrote: > I've posted it ad naseum, and your own quote says it leaves open the > possibility.
I don't personally feel that Iraq was the next logical step after Afghanistan. I'm a little surprised that you seem to be saying you thought it was-- I had thought you were more of the "lets get these assholes, even the ones who could actually give us a fight (even if only economically)" type. Did we go into Iraq to bring democracy and build them up -- or to fight the gol'dangded terrorists, and protect our contry? I think we could have literally bought more peace, straight up. Use those ad agencies on the fucking wannabe terrorists, vs. the American public. Give 'em some food, maybe a little chocolate -- make them owe us, like how it works with the politicians and our strategic allies. I mean, what century are we in? Why didn't we use the goodwill we got for being attacked (even though we were not innocent (as Ron Paul mentioned, and got booed for!)) to actually "bring it" to the *real* bad guys? I mean... Iraq? That was really #1 on your "these guys could hurt us" list? Iraq was *the* hotbed of terrorist activity? You don't think unlawful pressure was put on people to come up with justification to further a certain group's agenda? The crap going on in the old USSR is bad, but it makes sense. Logical progression. The stuff that went down here, just doesn't track. (Well, it does, if you're tracking the right stuff, but that "stuff" would be the shady nature of the current posse in the Oval Office, which shouldn't be what the USA is about) I know you've listed your reasons-- the flyovers, the nose-thumbing, etc.., but we're a big, bad-ass country. It hadn't seemed to be slowing us down much, you know? I was, honestly, more worried about the big players. And now we're a smaller player than we were. :-( You're telling me that you *honestly* think that Iraq was done right? That the people of America were done right by this Administration? That you support, not the cause so much, we've covered that, but the way things went down? It was legit, in your eyes? I think that we've agreed that neither of us shed a tear for Saddam (although I would have rather we killed the son of a bitch with a bowl of napalm or something, in the heat of battle, vs. how it went down-- bah.), but there are a LOT of bad people out there, man, and I, personally, felt that a lot of them had a lot more power to do us harm than that tired old bastard. Hell, I Still do. Where's the money coming from to fund these violent nut-jobs? Well, besides us. *heh* So long as I'm all over the place anyway--- that credit card commercial that says "we're a nation of consumers, and there's nothing wrong with that"... always fucking cracks me up. But I digress. Crap, I was hoping you'd say "we should have gone after the Saudis" or something ballsy, vs. falling back on the (IMO) rather piddly reasons for putting our children in debt, and at a disadvantage (compared to where we were). I thought you'd agreed that we'd gone in bass-ackwards (or, maybe not gone in (we did kick ass), but how we tried to hold it or whatever)-- no translators, no moles, no wartime economy. We fire the chiefs with the nuts* to say what we needed to do to win... *it took nuts, because (although it was their job do say so) this administration "gets ya" for not being a "team player" (you know, like, if you actually cared about the country, or doing the job right. Or am I off-base there, too?) Oh well, I guess the lines are drawn, and folks have to choose sides, and there is no middle ground. With us or against us, neh? It does keep things exciting, I reckon. It passes the time. -- Americans never quit. Douglas MacArthur ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:266187 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
