I'm also really bothered by the cultures that treat women as property - or
worse. E.g. the African cultures that practice ritual mutilation
(clitorectomies) - so not only do ya gotta do it, you can't enjoy it.

-Ben


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:56 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Not getting any (RE: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0))
> 
> 
> This reminds of the 20/20 (I think it was 20/20, the one w/ Barbara
> Walters) special on the women of Saudi Arabia last week. They were
> asking about the whole 'stoning' thing. I have to admit - I was
> sickened. They said, essentially "Oh, its VERY hard to be caught
> cheating on your husband, and you must be caught by two 
> people, not just
> one, so this is very rare."
> 
> Um... so, your saying women are very rarely stoned to death 
> for cheating
> on their husbands.
> 
> Gee, that's wonderful, I'm sure those few women don't really mind.
> 
> You know - I believe that we should be respectful of other people's
> cultures, but at some point, there is right and wrong. Stoning someone
> to death for infidelity is just plain sick. I can understand them not
> wanting women to drive. (Err, by 'understand' I mean, I can live with
> it. I think it's bad, of course, but it's nowhere near the stoning.)
> 
> -rc
> 
> 
> > 
> > Your assuming that women in the middle east (at least in most 
> > Muslim cultures) have the right to refuse. The rights of 
> > women are very restricted even in such places as Saudi 
> > Arabia. A woman can be arrested for just driving a car (as 
> > was seen during the gulf war when a number of women tried it 
> > in protest).
> > 
> > At 11:33 AM 4/2/02, you wrote:
> > >Hey!
> > >What we need for peace is a Middle East version of Lysistrata -
> > >the women say "until we get peace, you're not getting any" !!
> > >-Ben
> > >
> > >
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, April 02, 2002 8:13 AM
> > >> To: CF-Community
> > >> Subject: Re: Why (Re: They invaded! 0_0)
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> Another example of terrorism:
> > >> 
> > >> British suffragists early last century.
> > >> 
> > >> (Just finished reading a book on this subject - they were 
> > >> some SCARY women!)
> > >> 
> > >> Jerry Johnson
> > >> 
> > >> 
> 
> 
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