> -----Original Message----- > From: denstar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 5:43 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: Re: McCain's VP want's Creationism taught in Science Class > > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 9:22 AM, Jim Davis wrote: > .... > > As I define things (and as I believe most working scientists do as > well) > > "Science" is the result of the modern scientific method. There are > > definitely related disciplines (mathematics for example) and > unrelated > > disciplines that seek to answer some of the same questions (theology, > > philosophy, etc). There are also social disciplines that should > guide > > scientific inquiry (ethics for examples). > > Science is meaningless without Philosophy. Context, you know.
Another statement often made... but rarely backed up. Care to try? ;^) I might agree that the human condition may be meaningless without philosophy, but science doesn't seem to _need_ philosophy. I do think that a well-rounded scientist is a better scientist - I think that a well-rounded anything is better than an obsessive monophile - but to claim "meaninglessness" seems excessive. Somehow I get the impressive that you may have, unknowingly, set your jaw a bit. You seem to agree that something is "science" until it elicits wonder... then for some reason you seem to demand that it be labeled something else. The instant I think "he's finally seeing a bit of real science!" you're pulling back into the metaphysical. That sense of wonder you feel when contemplating the Drake Equation IS science. Some of the best kind of science: the science of the unproven hypothesis, the science of the wild prediction based on solid fact - the science of discovery! Jim Davis ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;203748912;27390454;j Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/message.cfm/messageid:268297 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/CF-Community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
