We were told multiple rates, times and months payment amounts.  I asked 
what I thought the plain question of how much our monthly payment was to 
be told $1900, I could and can afford that.  A few months later we make 
our first payment, and the next one comes for $3700.  The $1900 was an 
interest only number, she never discussed that with us.  Sure we could 
pay 1900 for ever and in 30 years we'd have owed them a million or more 
dollars.

After refinancing to get out I refused to sign a mortgage that sounded 
as bad or worse, and someones else with an interest in the house went 
forward with a re-fi.  They lost the house now and and had to go 
bankrupt.  Thankfully I was only on the deed for the re-fi and not the 
loan, didn't touch me, but I knew it smelled the second time around.

Jacob wrote:
> My sister worked for a very large, now defunct, mortgage company back in
> 2003/2004.
> 
> When she did underwriting, she came across loans that had the borrows income
> stated at $30,000 and trying to purchase a $500,000 house. When she rejected
> them, she was told it was be best for her to allow them through if she
> wished to continue working for them. She quit the following week.
> 
> She said the company was involved in way too much fraud... changing dates,
> income, value of houses after papers are signed.  Back in early 2004, she
> said that if this keep occurring that there will be a disaster in the
> future...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Maureen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 3:19 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: We just wanted to choose a really large number...
> 
> I would say that most people who can afford to pay their housing cost
> will pay, but there is always a group of bogus borrowers who will take
> advantage of easy credit to either live free .  No money down and no
> equity in the house - walking away is easy.
> 
> Not really sure what your point is about Keynes.  Maybe you could explain.
> 
> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 2:24 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> bottom line though, they cannot afford the payments? If people can
>> afford to pay their housing costs usually they will, yes? If you agree
>> with that statement, then ask yourself what Keynes would say.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Maureen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> The problem in the mortgage industry is that people applied for loans
>>> with an adjustable rate interest that had low initial rates, but now
>>> the higher rate and higher payments are kicking in and they can't
>>> afford the payments.  Credit has tightened and they cannot no longer
>>> qualify for refinancing.  Add high gas and food prices to that and you
>>> have a recipe for disaster.
> 
> 
> 
> 

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