And there's no way to get the kids away from him?

>The biggest problem is that when she is with him she has a drug problem
>herself.  She apparently is now having seizures from her
>crack/methamphetamine usage but thinks its nothing.
>
>She has left before, left everything, including the kids, to go get
>straight.  She missed the kids too much and came back
>
>Sadly, she may DIE before she leaves this guy.
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Erika L. Walker-Arnold" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 1:52 PM
>Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods
>
>
> > Having been in a very, very long (8 years), good/bad relationship with a
>man
> > who has a gambling problem, that codependency thing .... it's a hard thing
> > to shake.
> >
> > We know the man is a loser...or should I say, not right for us, but we
>love
> > them. We think they need us, because nothing else is right in their lives
> > .. only to find out, we were not anywhere close to the top of their
> > priority list, no matter how much they said we were.
> >
> > He was never mean to me. Helped with the dishes, the laundry, did the
> > shopping, but in the end, because of gambling, everything disintegrated. I
> > ended up supporting the both of us.
> >
> > It took me two years to break up with him, because it killed me to hurt
>him,
> > but in the end it was only hurting me, but I have to say, I would do it
>all
> > over again, because the path I took led me to Phil, the choices I made,
>gave
> > me the opportunity to be where I am today. We had tons of great times, but
> > I'll never forget the lessons I learned.
> >
> > She may, someday, see that she is in a dead-end road, and hopefully, she
> > will have learned something.
> >
> > Erika
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > >>|-----Original Message-----
> > >>|From: Beth Fleischer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>|
> > >>|Because she is a pitiful codependent freak.
> > >>|
> > >>|----- Original Message -----
> > >>|From: "Howard Owens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>|To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>|Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 9:38 PM
> > >>|Subject: RE: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> > >>|
> > >>|
> > >>|> Why does she stay with this loser?
> > >>|>
> > >>|> One of the discussions my wife and I have all the time --
> > >>|cause it drives
> > >>|> her up the wall -- is women who make bad choices in
> > >>|boyfriends/husbands.
> > >>|> She has a couple of friends who have been in one bad relationship
>after
> > >>|> another.  When she tells them they should find a nice stable guy,
> > >>|employed,
> > >>|> a little nerdy, not living the fast life, they say, "Oh, a guy
> > >>|like that
> > >>|> wouldn't be enough of a challenge; he wouldn't be interesting
>enough."
> > >>|Some
> > >>|> women want it all -- a guy who is wild, carefree, dangerous,
> > >>|but doesn't
> > >>|> sleep around or abuse them or use them.  Good luck finding that guy.
> > >>|>
> > >>|> H.
> > >>|>
> > >>|>
> > >>|> -----Original Message-----
> > >>|> From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > >>|> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 1:55 PM
> > >>|> To: CF-Community
> > >>|> Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> > >>|>
> > >>|>
> > >>|> I forgot the kicker- he spends all her money on drugs too
> > >>|>
> > >>|>
> > >>|> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>|> From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>|> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>|> Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 11:54 AM
> > >>|> Subject: Re: Egypt: Land of the Gods
> > >>|>
> > >>|>
> > >>|> > Seems to me that friend's husband is thinking he has a
> > >>|pretty good deal,
> > >>|> > she supports him, cleans up after him, etc. It sounds like he has a
> > >>|> servant
> > >>|> > rather than a wife.
> > >>|> >
> > >>|> > larry
> > >>|> >
> > >>|> >
> > >>|> > At 09:46 AM 4/5/02 -0900, you wrote:
> > >>|> > > > Wait a minute.  What about when a woman marries a man
> > >>|who tells her
> > >>|> that
> > >>|> > >it is her responsibility to cook, clean, etc.?  Isn't her choice
>to
> > >>|marry
> > >>|> a
> > >>|> > >man like that the same as choosing it herself? Do you take
> > >>|issue with
> > >>|> what
> > >>|> > >she's being told to do or the fact that she's being told to do
> > >>|anything?
> > >>|> > >
> > >>|> > >
> > >>|> > >Well as far as my relationships go, I personally don't
> > >>|think partners
> > >>|> should
> > >>|> > >TELL each other to do anything - they ask.
> > >>|> > >
> > >>|> > >If both the woman and the man feel that its her job to do all the
> > >>|cooking
> > >>|> > >and cleaning then its her choice.
> > >>|> > >
> > >>|> > >But i have a friend who is married to a guy who is jobless.
> > >>|He stays at
> > >>|> home
> > >>|> > >with a four year old but refuses to do any cooking,
> > >>|cleaning or laundry
> > >>|> or
> > >>|> > >shopping....  She asked him to pitch in and he said "What am I,
>the
> > >>|> maid?"
> > >>|> > >
> > >>|> > >So he feels its her job to do all of the working, cleaning,
> > >>|cooking and
> > >>|> > >laundry because he isnt' the maid  (i.e. because he isn't female).
> > >>|Thats
> > >>|> > >bullshit, plain and simple.
> > >>|> > >
> > >>|> > >
> > >>|> >
> > >>|>
> > >>|>
> > >>|
> >
>
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