I hope you are right.

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> So the guys on the ground are lying too?
>
> There are obviously still some problems on the ground, and likely will
> be some level of violence for years to come.  Thing is we are quickly
> reaching the level where the violence is controllable, and where the
> Iraqis are going to be the ones out in the streets.  Troop draw downs
> have already begun and been announced.
>
> We'll be able to plus up Afghanistan and hopefully start towards making
> headway there again.
>
> Maureen wrote:
>> They aren't "seeing" anything because they have no buy-in on reality.
>> They're just parroting that they are told by the leaders they are so
>> enamored with, usually through the medium of talk radio.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>> I just don't see what other people (read hard-core republicans) are
>>> seeing when they think a stable democracy will exist in this area.
>>> Who knows, maybe when the kill or drive out all the christians it will
>>> stabilize....but then they'll probably just start killing each other.
>>
>>
>
> 

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