Dictionary. Invasion does not have to mean conquer/subjugate/regime change.
A thief invading your house does not mean to stay. He wants in and out. And
yes, the term is used that way all the time. Some may assume that it means
conquer/subjugate/regime change, but....
As for the Pakistani governments support of the Taliban and other Islamist
forces, we're seeing more and more evidence of it day by day.

Spanish intelligence document says Pakistan 'helped arm Taliban'
http://quqnoos.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1716&Itemid=49
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/spain/3116894/Spanish-intelligence-document-says-Pakistan-helped-arm-Taliban.html

Let me look at Obama's statements again to see if he mentioned Bin Ladin or
just terrorists.

On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:24 AM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:

> On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 8:26 PM, Michael Dinowitz
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > And the difference between striking and invading is? They're synonymous.
>
> I thought it was rather clear and obvious. You invade a country when
> you mean to conquer/subjugate/regime change it. We invaded Iraq, we
> meant to overthrow the government. You are going after elements of
> that country, particularly its government or forces associated/allied
> with it.
>
> In this case the discussion is about an offensive against groups that
> are not associated with the Pakistan government (we hope) and there is
> no goal or plan to depose the government or take control of any
> portion of their land. It is a strike within the territory of
> Pakistan, but not aimed at Pakistani interests. That is a clear and
> obvious difference.
>
> Still a serious situation. We'd be far better off working with the
> government of Pakistan to coordinate efforts in that area. Which is
> what Obama said he would do. The issue was whether Obama would violate
> the territorial integrity of Pakistan if he knew where Bin Laden was
> and Pakistan was unwilling or unable to help/authorize the strike.
>
> > And yes, there's an IF there but he did say it. Threaten it even.
>
> He said he would do it if that was the only choice to get Bin Laden.
> Its a tough call for me, honestly. I'm generally on the pacifistic
> side of things and I worry about inflaming anti-western ideology in
> Pakistan considering all that is in play in that region. None the
> less, we are talking about a man that pretty much tops the worlds most
> wanted list and who presumably was behind one of the largest assaults
> on the US in history. So everything taken together, I think you
> probably have to roll the dice and go after him, even if it means
> upsetting an ally who has very complicated dealings at home. By no
> means an easy decision though.
>
> Judah
>
> 

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