how much do we pay blackwater per contractor again? Sounds like corporate welfare to *me*...
On Thu, Oct 16, 2008 at 6:44 AM, Loathe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Who underwrote blackwater? > > You mean giving them contracts? > > Thats not a subsidy. > > Dana wrote: >> based on the last few years it seems to me that a "capitalist" is >> someone who wants huge taxpayer subsidies without paying any taxes. >> That is what gets me about the guys running around complaining about >> the minimum wage and the earned income credit -- they are almost >> always willing to underwrite Haliburton and Blackwater and Exxon. >> >> Yeah we are broke. The Treasury has essentially been looted the last >> few years, with more to come. It isn't just that the drug subsidy >> "isn't enough" -- it wasn't anything. Except a giveaway for drug >> companies. So the problems it allegedly fixes are still here. That is >> why people propose additional spending. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:56 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >>>>> > Why does the idea of hard working people who earn in the lower level >>>>> > of the income spectrum being allowed to keep more of their money bug >>>>> > you so much? >>>>> >>>>> Fair question. I would like people in the bottom of the income bracket to >>>>> keep their money. I just don't want to give them mine. :-) >>>> so again... why does this idea bother you so much. You waste a lot of >>>> energy posting about this, you know. >>> Here, Dana, you have identified one of the "core" differences between >>> a capitalist and a socialist. >>> >>> As a capitalist, I say this: "If I am going to share my income with >>> someone, I want to do it at my pace, with my time and to the >>> individuals or organizations that I select. I don't want my >>> hard-earned dollars going to something that does not help people >>> improve their own condition on their own skills. I also don't want my >>> money going to pay for any group who's operating expenses are more >>> than 1/2 of the total budget!" >>> >>> That's not to say that I'm not for helping people... but I am against >>> the Government forcing money from me and sending it to people and >>> groups that I think need better programs. >>> >>> A socialist would say something along these lines: "I have the >>> time/energy/understanding/intestinal fortitude (pick one or more or >>> add your own) to help others but I want to see something done. The >>> government is a good organization that can properly distribute what I >>> pay in taxes to others." (I almost wanted to add, "they don't make >>> mistakes with money!" but decided not to.) >>> >>> The concept of lowering taxes on the poor is a red herring... since I >>> have started working where I do (a payroll company), I can say without >>> question that there is a large percentage of employees that will get >>> EVERYTHING they "paid in" over the year back. Obama's "redistribution >>> of wealth" plan says that they are going to actually get more back >>> from the IRS than they paid in. Why is this a problem? See my >>> statement above... especially when you consider that just about darn >>> near everyone on this list will end up realizing a lower income under >>> the proposed plan. >>> >>> This is where we stand at a point of division. Today's Democratic >>> party, especially those led and portrayed by Obama, are socialists. >>> They don't even try to hide that fact, and the promises that Obama has >>> made are right in line with that agenda. As a Conservative, I'm also >>> an unapologetic capitalist. Most Republicans (except for liberal >>> Republicans) fall in that category as well. From the looks of >>> ratings, the American public is split 40/20/40 in a >>> liberal/moderate/conservative split. >>> >>> Which means that it's going to be an interesting next few weeks! >>> >>> Until Later! >>> Hatton >>> http://www.eastcoastconservative.com >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:274798 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
