there are people on this list that thinks obama walks on water just as there
are people on this list that thinks bush was a perfectly fine president and
did a splendid job.
yeah, there are wackjobs on both sides of the spectrum :)
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:17 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> eh I don't think anybody thinks he walks on water. I certainly don't.
> But after eight years of enough hypocrisy to gag an elephant, I am
> looking forward to seeing some integrity in the white house. And he is
> right you know. All of the time that we have spent on this thread was
> not spent on thinking about actual issues like oh... clean air, to
> pick on of my favorite beefs.
>
> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Charlie Griefer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Dana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> they could. But what about all the volunteers who want to hang out and
> >> watch the election results together? I guarantee that McCain is having
> >> some sort of an event as well.
> >>
> >> So while you could donate the money, yes, perhaps the man feels
> >> entitled to take a break and thank his supporters. Perhaps he thinks
> >> they deserve that. Because one way or the other election night will be
> >> a transition; the elections will be over.
> >>
> >
> > I'm sure McCain is as well, and I agree that everyone's entitled to a bit
> of
> > R&R. My question wasn't about the party itself or even the cost. My
> > question was more, "why are people harping on $150k for clothes, but not
> > harping on $2million for a party?" And again, as you were not one of the
> > harpers, the question doesn't apply to you :)
> >
> > To answer the questions you posed tho... think $1million would throw a
> > pretty decent party? Just curious :)
> >
> >
> >> Perhaps you could donate your next paycheck to Katrina victims, too? I
> >> mean when you start second-guessing on this level -- when was the last
> >> time you had a venti latte? Why didn't you send that money to starving
> >> children in Africa?
> >
> >
> > You're right. Everything's subjective, and even if the party budget were
> > cut in half, there would be those that would suggest it's excessive.
> I'll
> > assume that the venti latti question was rhetorical to demonstrate the
> > subjectivity of the issue (but it's been quite some time since i've had
> > coffee from anything other than a Mr. Coffee machine).
> >
> > I feel certain that an Obama presidency will address a lot of
> >> America's problems, but let's get him elected first before we ask why
> >> he isn't doing more :)
> >>
> >
> > But can't we safely assume that a candidate's past and/or current
> behavior
> > is indicative of what we can expect while in office?
> >
> >
> >> And by the way, I *will* be doing that, when I feel he isn't doing
> >> right or enough :) All those Bush apologists who said that his critics
> >> just didn't like him are in for a shock, or would be if they had the
> >> self-awareness to remember having made the remark. There are a lot of
> >> politically engaged members of the population like me, who will
> >> continue to track the issues of the day regardless of who is elected.
> >>
> >
> > I look forward to seeing that :) I've mentioned a few times in this
> thread
> > that I don't really care about the cost of the election night party any
> more
> > than I care about the wardrobe. What gets my panties in a wad (or would
> if
> > i weren't currently going commando) is when people blindly attack one
> party
> > while turning a blind eye to the other. In all of this mess ('this mess'
> > being cf-community election time threads), I really think the only person
> > that I've noticed (key phrase, 'that I've noticed') displaying any degree
> of
> > objectivity is Maureen. While she's made it clear that she's not
> currently
> > a fan of McCain, I've seen her jump in and throw the bullshit flag when
> > questionable "issues" about McCain have been raised.
> >
> > I despise the "toe the party line" mentality and the folks who can't
> admit
> > (either to themselves and/or others) that even though they're registered
> > republicans (and or people with a politically conservative outlook),
> George
> > W. may not have been a particularly good president. Or, that to
> registered
> > democrats (and or people who have a politically liberal outlook) that
> Obama
> > might not walk on water.
> >
> > I suppose I should know better than to get sucked into these threads.
> I've
> > been on this list long enough to know (or believe I know) who doesn't
> care
> > to listen to reason and who does. For some of those, I don't even think
> > *they* believe half the stuff they type. I think it's just mental
> > masturbation for them. Yet, for some reason that my little brain just
> can't
> > comprehend, I feel the need to swoop in and try to point out the lack of
> > objectivity in their posts. Hasn't worked yet. Don't know why I think
> it
> > will in the future.
> >
> > What's the definition of insanity? :)
> >
> > --
> > I have failed as much as I have succeeded. But I love my life. I love my
> > wife. And I wish you my kind of success.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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