I can agree with that, but Larry was offering the studies up as irrefutable
proof that media bias does not exist.

And, sorry Larry, I got a kick out of the fact that one of the studies
concluded that not only did a media bias exist, but it was biased on the
liberal side, in 18 out of 20 outlets they studied.

On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 3:06 PM, Judah McAuley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Oh, well as it turns out, that is pretty easy. You don't have to say
> "this is 100% objective". Rather you say "these are my assumptions,
> these are my methods, these are my conclusions". And then people can
> agree or disagree with you and your conclusions based on their
> agreement with those assumptions and methods.
>
> If I say the word "nazi" appearing in an article other than a
> historical context regarding Germany pre/during WWII is going to be
> scored as aggressively negative, you can choose to agree or disagree
> with my assessment.
>
> One of the goals of research is to come up with a set of broadly
> agreed upon assumptions and methods that can be used to compare
> similar types of studies. It may be easier in some fields, say
> Physics, to come up with those mutually agreeable assumptions and
> methods, but it is not impossible in a particular field just because
> it involves humans. Indeed, major breakthroughs in most disciplines
> come when a shared assumption or method turns out to not be true and
> they have to revise the shared set of assumptions and methods in order
> to take new information into account.
>
> The fundamental thing, though, is not that you are saying conclusively
> "this is objective reality" but rather that you have a framework that
> is agreed upon as a way to study the phenomena you are interested in.
>
> Judah
>
> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Scott Stroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > That sounds like a good start, but please tell me where humans, who
> cannot
> > be obejctive, are removed from the process.
> >
> > You would still need people to offer their opinions on what words
> indicate
> > bias one way or another.
> > You would still need people to offer their opinions on what the 'scoring'
> > system would be.
> > You would still need people to offer their opinions on what would
> constitute
> > a news outlet not covering a stort as much as another outlet.
> >
> > Once again, since 'bias' is a subjective term, there can be no clear
> > scientific evidence one way or the other, only research based on
> opinions.
> >
>
> 

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