Thanks, Jeff

was asking for a very silly reason

have this twisted fantasy that the Genie grants 3 wishes, but the %^&*#
Genie is a *lawyer* :-(

so, if this ever happens, before spending a wish to eliminate all viruses
(thereby eradicating cancer, flu, colds, AIDS, etc.) I wanted to make sure I
would not be dooming us because of some virus we needed...

-Ben


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Garza, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 9:15 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Beneficial viruses (was: circumcision advantage)
> 
> 
> In a natural sense, no.  The only purpose of a virus is to replicate.
> That's it.  The processes that they hijack at the cellular level don't
> produce anything other than the parts necessary to create new virions.
> Typically this will kill the host cell.  Definitely not beneficial.
> 
> There are some natural uses of viruses though.  Small pox was 
> eradicated by
> a virus.  Not in a literal sense but the Cow Pox Virus 
> conferred immunity to
> small pox with virtually no disease symptoms.  The virus 
> really didn't do
> anything other than look a lot like it's more virulent cousin...
> 
> Now, with genetic engineering, things get a lot more interesting.
> Researchers are looking at genetically altering viruses to 
> fight cancer.
> Viruses are routinely used to create pest resistant crops by 
> injecting the
> DNA needed to create chemicals the bugs don't like...  
> Viruses are also used
> to create new cell lines for research (making cancer cells 
> that replicate
> forever...).  So there are lots of "uses" for altered 
> viruses... Beneficial
> is left to the eye of the beholder.
> 
> 
> Jeff Garza
> *Now unveiled as supreme geek*
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:47 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Circumcision advantage
> 
> 
> Jeff-
> 
> as a former microbiologist, maybe you can answer a question 
> I've wondered
> about for a looooong time:
> 
> there are beneficial bacteria (e.g., the cultures that make 
> yogurt). are
> there beneficial viruses, or are all viruses harmful?
> 
> -Ben
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Garza, Jeff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:43 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Circumcision advantage
> > 
> > 
> > Technically you are correct, if you are a human.  If you are
> > a bacteria,
> > it's quite a different story.  There are plenty of viruses 
> that infect
> > bacteria only.  Although, I don't know of any viruses that 
> > can infect both
> > mammalian and bacterial cells... 
> > 
> > Jeff Garza
> > Former Microbiologist...
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:34 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Circumcision advantage
> > 
> > 
> > I sent a similar post yesterday!
> > 
> > Bacteria doesn't cause a virus.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:16 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Circumcision advantage
> > 
> > Wrong on a couple of counts -
> > 
> > it's not a bacteria, it's a virus
> > and it was in the tissue of the foreskin, not the smegma
> > 
> > (I found this out by reading more of the article after
> > posting what I heard
> > on the radio.)
> > 
> > -Ben
> > 
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Philip Arnold - ASP [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 5:49 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Circumcision advantage
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > the particular bacteria grow in the smegma. And you can
> > look it up
> > > > yourself because I'm not going to explain it.
> > > 
> > > So, if you're clean and wash every day, there's virtually 
> no smegma, 
> > > so you can't pass on the bacteria - right?
> > > 
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