Wait a minute.  It is ok for Larry to accuse me of wearing blinders
because I am defending an unproven accusation against Mr. White, but I
am not allowed to accuse Larry of wearing blinders based on his previous
posts about the Clinton administration???????????  Think about it for a
minute.



-----Original Message-----
From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:56 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: This makes me sick

Larry-
I agree with you completely.
I think Kevin is out of line with his comment.
-Ben


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:54 AM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: This makes me sick
> 
> 
> Do not ascribe my thoughts, you do not know me nor have I 
> ever confided in
> you regarding them. Your sort of stereotyping is completely 
> contemptuous.
> 
> --
> Larry C. Lyons
> ColdFusion/Web Developer
> Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> EBStor.com
> 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> tel:   (703) 393-7930
> fax:   (703) 393-2659
> Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
>        http://www.pacel.com
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> --
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:47 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: This makes me sick
> > 
> > 
> > I was unaware of Mr. Whites involvement....I will look into it.
> > 
> > However, if I were to wear blinders they would probably be 
> of the same
> > type you wore all through the Clinton administration.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:40 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: This makes me sick
> > 
> > Thomas White's soliciting government contracts for Enron 
> > while he is an
> > administration official isn't a smoking gun? Talk about 
> > wearing a set of
> > blinders.
> > 
> > larry
> > 
> > --
> > Larry C. Lyons
> > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > EBStor.com
> > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> >        http://www.pacel.com
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > --
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:28 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: This makes me sick
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I am saying that if it is done right, than there is no reason 
> > > that they
> > > should not drill.  Now, whether it would be done right is another
> > > question.
> > > 
> > > Now on the topic of Enron.  I am sure that there were some 
> > > ties to Enron
> > > among the Bush administration, stated or unstated.  
> However I don't
> > > think it is a smoking gun.  It has been fairly well 
> > > documented that yes
> > > Enron had asked the Bush administration for help and they 
> > were denied.
> > > Skilling and Lay were lying cheats, and that has nothing to 
> > > with Bush or
> > > any of his administration.  
> > > 
> > > If you think there was a problem, back up your info.  It's 
> > > easy to just
> > > say ENRON and point a finger at Bush.  Just like it would be 
> > > easy to say
> > > Whitewater and point a finger at Clinton.  Without evidence 
> > to back up
> > > your claim it is mere rumors and spin.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:17 PM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: This makes me sick
> > > 
> > > Kevin-
> > > 
> > > do you actually believe what you said in this post?
> > > sorry, I find that incredible.
> > > 
> > > The environmental impact report on ANWAR that came in 
> > > unfavorable to the
> > > drilling was ordered to be revised, and months of work were 
> > > re-done in a
> > > week to make the results come out more like the 
> > administration wanted.
> > > That's totally bogus.
> > > 
> > > "Enron had nothing to do with this Administration" ?!?!?
> > > 
> > > -Ben
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:17 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: This makes me sick
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Enron had nothing to do with this Administration, their 
> > > lying,cheating
> > > > and stealing started well before Bush was President
> > > > 
> > > > ANWAR -  I think it is obvious we need to lessen our 
> dependence on
> > > > foreign oil.  ANWAR is one option.  It can be done right 
> > and safely.
> > > > 
> > > > Not familiar with what Carlyle is...care to enlighten me.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:07 PM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: This makes me sick
> > > > 
> > > > Carlyle
> > > > Enron
> > > > ANWAR drilling
> > > > etc.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this government showing
> > > > "compassionate conservatism"
> > > > or
> > > > "covert capitalism"
> > > > 
> > > > ??
> > > > 
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:06 AM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: This makes me sick
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34565-2002Apr11.html
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > Kevin Schmidt
> > > > 
> > > > Two Rivers Marketing Group
> > > > 
> > > > 502 E. Locust, Des Moines, IA 50309
> > > > 
> > > > Phone: 515.557.2028
> > > > 
> > > > Mobile: 515.865.3526
> > > > 
> > > > Fax: 515.557.2001
> > > > 
> > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 

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