I agree with you....I was saying that it is very easy to point the finger, but not always easy to back it up with hard data
-----Original Message----- From: William H. Bowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 1:05 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: This makes me sick Except that now if you point your finger at Clinton and say "Whitewater" you can finish the sentence with "Report bought and paid for by Republicans with my money found no criminal wrongdoing on the part of the Clintons. I guess I'll put my finger down now." http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentI d=A5 8764-2002Mar20 Was ENRON in business before Bush came into office? Yes. Were they a pack of lying, cheating, bastards before Bush? Yes. Will ENRON bring down the Bush Whitehouse? Probably not and quite frankly I could not care less. Big F'ing deal. I think that the pursuit of the Clinton's (et.al.) over Whitewater was a colossal waste of time, money and resources, not because of the vote I cast (especially because I did not vote for Clinton [aHAAA!]), but because of the schism it has created in America. I think pols on BOTH sides need to GROW THE F*CK UP and let it go. I think PEOPLE that endlessly bring up the Clinton record as an excuse for not holding their own people accountable, need to GROW THE F*CK UP, I think that PEOPLE that say the things Clinton DID do are "exusable" are fooling themselves, and I think they too, need to GROW THE F*CK UP. Stop trying to be Republican or Democrat first and an AMERICAN second, we've got bigger problems to deal with. .like whether Todd really will use those nukes of his... Clinton isn't President anymore, he will never be again. Like ALL other presidents, he will fade into relative obscurity, just like Nixon, just like Reagan...unless of course the conservatives (media and pols, alike) won't let him. so there... 8-P . Shields up! will ---- William H. Bowen Webmaster ALSTOM's Energy Management and Markets Business [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.esca.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:27 AM Subject: RE: This makes me sick > I am saying that if it is done right, than there is no reason that they > should not drill. Now, whether it would be done right is another > question. > > Now on the topic of Enron. I am sure that there were some ties to Enron > among the Bush administration, stated or unstated. However I don't > think it is a smoking gun. It has been fairly well documented that yes > Enron had asked the Bush administration for help and they were denied. > Skilling and Lay were lying cheats, and that has nothing to with Bush or > any of his administration. > > If you think there was a problem, back up your info. It's easy to just > say ENRON and point a finger at Bush. Just like it would be easy to say > Whitewater and point a finger at Clinton. Without evidence to back up > your claim it is mere rumors and spin. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:17 PM > To: CF-Community > Subject: RE: This makes me sick > > Kevin- > > do you actually believe what you said in this post? > sorry, I find that incredible. > > The environmental impact report on ANWAR that came in unfavorable to the > drilling was ordered to be revised, and months of work were re-done in a > week to make the results come out more like the administration wanted. > That's totally bogus. > > "Enron had nothing to do with this Administration" ?!?!? > > -Ben > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:17 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: This makes me sick > > > > > > Enron had nothing to do with this Administration, their lying,cheating > > and stealing started well before Bush was President > > > > ANWAR - I think it is obvious we need to lessen our dependence on > > foreign oil. ANWAR is one option. It can be done right and safely. > > > > Not familiar with what Carlyle is...care to enlighten me. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Braver, Ben [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 12:07 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: This makes me sick > > > > Carlyle > > Enron > > ANWAR drilling > > etc. > > > > Is this government showing > > "compassionate conservatism" > > or > > "covert capitalism" > > > > ?? > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 10:06 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: This makes me sick > > > > > > > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34565-2002Apr11.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Kevin Schmidt > > > > > > Two Rivers Marketing Group > > > > > > 502 E. Locust, Des Moines, IA 50309 > > > > > > Phone: 515.557.2028 > > > > > > Mobile: 515.865.3526 > > > > > > Fax: 515.557.2001 > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ Get the mailserver that powers this list at http://www.coolfusion.com Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
