If the militia isn't necessary anymore you would need to amend the constitution to change it in order to take away that right, there is a process to do that.
The people is us, the citizens of the united states of America, that has been found over and over again by SCOTUS in various trials. The portions you're totally ignoring, on purpose because I know you read better than that, is the fact that this is a 2 clause sentence with the first providing the justification for the right, and the second the right it self. Moreover, wouldn't the 10th amendment specifically prohibit states from legislating on guns even in your argument? > -----Original Message----- > From: Gruss Gott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2008 2:42 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: More Obama gun nonsense > > > tBone wrote: > > I still don't see how you feel it isn't an individual right > > Because here's the text: > > A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a > free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms > shall not be infringed > > There are numerous terms not well defined here: > * "the people" > * "arms" > *"militia" > > Next, if you break it down, it says the reason "the people" > can "keep and bear arms" is because a well regulated militia > is necessary to the security of a free state. > > Therefore if a militia is NOT necessary for the security of a > free state (and it's not any longer), then "the people" don't > need arms. > > But that's just one of a 1000 arguments someone could make. > > At the end of the day, however, they don't mean anything > because there's no federal will to ban guns so it's not a > very fruitful discussion; interesting academically maybe but > that's it. > > Thus given there's nothing clear but something there, let's > leave it up to local governments > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:280665 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
