Even I, secular jew, think messianic jews are no longer jews.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith Dinowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: RE: Religious Jews (was: Circumcision article link) > Russel -- > > It's not a condemnation. One of the core beliefs of Judaism is in the > coming of the Messiah. But by the definition of that belief, the Messiah > has not yet come. For the Messiah to come, he has to fulfill certain > requirements (a major example of these requirements: The Messiah has to > bring world peace.) Jesus didn't fulfill those requirements. Therefore, > Judaism does not believe that Jesus was the Messiah, the savior of > humanity, or the son of G-d. > > So one cannot claim to be following Judaism while believing in Jesus the > way a Christian believes in Jesus. > > This is what "Messianic Jews" claim. But this claim is based on a major > misunderstanding of Judaism. > > You'll note that Michael and Ben, who are from two very different Jewish > groups, both agree that Messianic Jews are not following Judaism. This > should tell you something. > > NOTE: I did not say that Messianic Jews could not be born Jewish. But they > are being sold a bill of goods if they think they are following Judaism. > Maybe they are doing some Jewish practices -- but believing in Jesus as the > Messiah or as anything other than a human being is directly against a core > tenet of Judaism. > > Judith > > >So let me ask you this. Because I. as a Catholic, believe that Christ is > >present in the Eucharist when I receive It every Sunday. Baptist do not > >share that CORE, 2000 year old tenet of my faith. Does that mean to you I, > >as a Catholic, and someone else, as a Baptist, cannot both claim to be > >Christian? > > > >Personally, I feel that those calling themselves Messianic Jews are really > >archaic Christians. A living, religious fossil, so to speak. I just > >resented the immediate condemnation of them as not being Jewish in any way. > >The Early Chrisitian Church celebrated in synagogs and worshipped in the > >Temple. They maintained much of thier Jewish identity, even after the > >Gentiles were admitted to the Church. If it were not for the Roman > >persecutions, we probably would still be worshipping that way. > > > >===== > >Russel Madere > >Senior Software Engineer > >Turbo Squid, Inc. > >http://www.turbosquid.com > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists
