There are always exceptions to the rule. Don't get me wrong. Outsourcing
grunt CF programming is not a bad thing as long as your very clear as to
what you want. The problem is, few are very clear.
I did a job last week where I interviewed the client to get a very clear
idea of what he wanted, what the business logic was, and just about every
angle needed to do the project right. I then wrote up a document detailing
what we talked about with directions to go, things to watch for, time
estimates, etc. If he gave that to an offshore team, they would get the job
done well. If he just said he wanted X and Y, even if he tried to explain
it, the chances of getting it in a timely fashion, let alone correct, would
be extreme.
Of course, looking at what he wanted and all, I could probably get it to him
in 3/4 of the time/price, but we'll see if that happens. I probably have
code for half of the project or more just in stuff I've done for fun.

Would be good to have money.

On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 5:17 PM, Erika L. Walker <[email protected]>wrote:

> I didn't say all. I said some. And I guarantee you, there are a few that
> can.
>
> I'm not saying the majority can, just some.
>
> On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 4:16 PM, Michael Dinowitz <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> > No, no they can't. I was at a client yesterday and had to both show where
> > the bottlenecks in their code was as well as why things were crashing.
> > Things that a first year CFer could easily see. Some things I even
> pointed
> > out 2 years back and their off-shore team just didn't or couldn't fix.
> And
> > that's without talking about the whole 'pure oo' to the point of
> detriment.
> >
> >
>
>
> 

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