>>>> Just look at ethanol from corn. What a stupid idea that was, right from the very beginning. It all started because farmers could not sell all of their corn. So they invented this bio-fuel and convinced a bunch of idiots in Congress to provide them with giant subsidies to pay for it. Even then it was not competitive as a fuel until oil shot through the roof, and then what happened? The price of corn skyrocketed, creating huge problems primarily for poor people in places like Mexico who eat corn flour tortillas as a staple of their diets. >>>>
What you are describing here is one hell of a thing to pull off. I always knew those farmers were shifty. They always look so busy sewing seed, plowing fields, reaping harvests, milking cows and the like. Who knew they had time to organize such a far reaching conspiracy. -----Original Message----- From: Robert Munn [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Saturday, December 20, 2008 9:01 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: SCIENCE! But that's exactly the point. The so-called green movement wants to create enough of a panic to convince you to part with your money to subsidize their businesses because they can't compete in the market. The tail is wagging the dog, you see? Just look at ethanol from corn. What a stupid idea that was, right from the very beginning. It all started because farmers could not sell all of their corn. So they invented this bio-fuel and convinced a bunch of idiots in Congress to provide them with giant subsidies to pay for it. Even then it was not competitive as a fuel until oil shot through the roof, and then what happened? The price of corn skyrocketed, creating huge problems primarily for poor people in places like Mexico who eat corn flour tortillas as a staple of their diets. The truth is that if green technologies were competitive with fossil fuels on a large scale, utility companies would deploy them. But unlike the shysters in the "green" community, the utility companies actually have to provide energy at reasonable prices without massive subsidies. So why should we allow for massive market distortion in favor of "green" technologies? It's a scam. And let's not forget about China and India. Without their total participation, any "going green" strategy to limit CO2 emissions is doomed to faliure before it even starts. Anyone want to bet that either of those countries buys into severely limiting their economic growth in the name of going "green"? Even if you believe that limiting CO2 emissions is a necessary thing, you can't seriously pretend that anything we do will make a difference unless China, India, and lots of other countries participate. And we already know what China and India are going to do - nothing - so why are we even having this discussion? Because someone wants to sell you something you don't need and can't afford, so they are trying to scare you into allowing the government - i.e. you, me and everyone else - into paying for it. Screw that. On Sat, Dec 20, 2008 at 5:09 PM, denstar <[email protected]> wrote: > > I get the "room for discussion" mentality, but basically, getting > "green" is nothing but a good thing, in my mind. > > Yes, even if people are getting rich off it. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:283152 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
