Your whole premise is faulty anyway because we have a legal system where evidence can be presented in a way which protects national security. This isn't an either/or situation. The Bush administration behaved like national security had never been an issue that the courts had had to worry about before. Pure bullshit and the Supreme Court even called them on it in spite of Bush getting to pick several members of the court.
We've managed to do pretty well in some rather extreme circumstances over the past 200 years as a nation. This state of permanent warfare against an undefined enemy as an excuse to trample civil liberties because they are inconvenient is bullshit. Judah On Sun, Jan 25, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote: > It is a hypothetical question designed to test one of the most basic ideas > of moral judgment - should you perpetrate a small crime against an > individual in order to prevent them from perpetrating a much larger crime? > > You absolutely can not know whether they would kill anyone in the future, > but the assumption of the exercise is that you know. From there, you can > change the variables of certainty to test how far people will go. What if > you are 100% certain they are guilty but only 70% certain they will kill > again? What if they do in fact kill many people in a future terrorist > attack? Does the government get the blame for letting them go? > > Here is a concrete problem. KSM admits guilt and wants to die a martyr. > Let's assume for the purpose of the exercise that waterboarding is torture > and that he was tortured, rendering anything he said later inadmissible in > court. Do we let him go or allow him to plead guilty and execute him? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:286612 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
