Gruss, this is where it becomes clear that you are very confused about what it is we're all talking about. You are so focused on the current system in the US that you cannot wrap your head around how notionalised health care in Canada and the UK works. There are no "plans." It really doesn't matter what hospital has what equipment because there is no "my hospital." If your local hospital doesn't have something you need, like some uncommon piece of equipment, then a doctor will just refer you to one that does. If your doctor doesn't provide a service you need, then you get referred to one that does. You are applying logic to a situation where it doesn't fit then railing against it.
I personally think you just like over complicating arguments so you can tell everyone that they just don't understand. It seems like your own little way to feel superior. Well here you go Gruss, you're super double duper smart. Pat on the head for you. Let's hope you don't get more sick than your bank account can handle. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Judah wrote: > > > > Gruss, you're being purposefully obtuse. > > I'm not, but let me try to be more clear: > > If the government is going to decide what plans I can and can't get, > then I'm against it. > > If the government is going to what equipment my hospital can and can't > buy, then I'm against it. > > If the government is going to decide what services my doctor can and > can't perform, then I'm against it. > > If there's anything obtuse it's advocating for something you can't > define nor understand. > > You keep pounding the table for "nationalized health care" and > "government health care" and I'm just asking for you to define that by > describing the government's role at each constituent level, what the > estimated costs might be, and who's going to pay for it when and how > much. > > Since nobody's done that, I'm just asking questions and pointing out > what you've failed to define. > > Be honest here: you don't (or didn't) understand the insurance > business model and you don't (or didn't) understand how > Medicare/Medicaid works. Nor the costs, nor the implications of > expansion. > > If I was advocating for government run healthcare, those are 2 > subjects I wouldn't want to be weak on. > > So let's agree: none of us here understand this subject well enough to > advocate for anything, but we all agree that people are entitled some > basic form of eligibility to health care benefits as citizens of the > US. The big question is the best way to go about creating that > system. > > I've thrown out my ideas on how to do that in some earlier post. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:288880 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
