and i guess this is my point. if there is nothing we can do, then lets all move on make us better and hope that others see the changes we can and have started to make and if they dont move forward, tough titty said the kitty.
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 4:28 PM, Michael Dinowitz <[email protected]> wrote: > > That's what drives me to depression (really). We can't. We can't persuade > the UN to do anything about these other conflicts. We can't go in ourselves. > We can't really do anything. Basically, we're useless to help others. > > If there was a massive public outcry about them then it would be one thing > but there isn't. How many times have these conflicts been the BBC's main > story? How many times have the media outlets moved to elicit public sympathy > and outrage to stop these conflicts. The American government can't do > anything about it alone but if all of Europe was outraged and wanted to get > it fixed then there would be more 'weight' to fix the problem. But again, > the problem is how. Even with Europe with us, we'll be blocked by China and > Russia in the security council and by so many others in the general > assembly. > > "hey, want to make the world better? Nah, we just want to block the US from > doing anything" - Russia > "hey, want to save lives in Africa? Nah, we have our own interests in > Africa" - China > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:46 PM, Rastafari <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> but how can we REALISTICALLY go do more shit when we are effed up to >> the hilt here? >> how can we afford this? >> >> how also can we afford more anti-us stuff when we go muck around in >> those countries? >> we get slandered, we get irritated locals who think we are taking >> over, etc etc etc... >> >> >> >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Michael Dinowitz >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > How many jihad supporters from Somalia have come to this country? How >> many >> > who reject American laws and way of life and want to change us into a >> > religious theocracy? We can't just ignore whats happening 'over there' >> when >> > it affects us 'over here'. >> > >> > On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:31 PM, Rastafari <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> i guess im the only one who comes from the "let them sort it out and >> >> if they kill each other dead >> >> then so be it" crowd? >> >> >> >> also, i belong to the "there are some people who just cannot live with >> >> civility and there is no point >> >> in doing anything to try to sway them" crowd as well. >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:290377 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
