Dammit Robert and Gruss...look what you guys did with your recent 'I agree' antics...I agree with Larry on this one.
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Larry Lyons <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Aside from the fact that Charles Krauthammeris a shill for the neocons, > >> just examine your statement there. > > > > > >Then he's a pretty shitty shill, if he endorses stem cell research. > > > > > >> It is so mind boggling gob smacking so far out there that its in orbit. > >> What do you want, correct moral and ideology committees examining all > >> scientists. > > > > > >What do you want? All scientists deciding for themselves what is and what > is > >not morally acceptable? And we just accept that as gospel? Somewhere, > >somehow, at some point, we have to apply some sort of moral standard. > > You're not at all familiar with how research is done these days are you. I > don't have the time nor the inclination to teach you something you really > should know if you're going to be bloviating about this. I suggest you start > at the NIH site and continue from there. I would also do a google search on > the topic. To start here are a few links you need to read before commenting. > http://www.hms.harvard.edu/integrity/scientif.html > http://ohsr.od.nih.gov/guidelines/belmont.html > > http://www.research.northwestern.edu/policies/investigators-in-scientific-research.html > http://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Wikiversity:Research_Ethics > http://www.apa.org/science/anguide.html > http://www.apa.org/science/rcr/homepage.html > http://www.apa.org/science/rcr/human.html > http://www.hhmi.org/about/research/policies.html > > Those are a few example of what is current. They are good for a starter. > > > > > >I think a group of scientists could take the concerns of those with moral > >questions and construct a set of guidelines that allows viable and > important > >stem cell research, but establishes certain rules that address people's > >moral concerns. > > See above. Ethical considerations I have no problem with. Moral approval > committees no damn way. That smacks too much of a Taliban like screening > system. > > > > > > >> If so then perhaps yo don't know that is what happened in the Stalinist > era > >> and during the Cultural Revolution in China during the 60's and 70's. > Never > >> thought you'd be advocating communism. > > > > > >Come on....let's stay grounded for a change. > > Same thing. > > > > > > >> for that matter the Iranian and Saudi governments has similar > committees. > >> When they controlled Afghanistan the Taliban instituted similar groups. > >> Accordingly why do you want the terrorists to win. > > > > > >So much for grounded. > > Sorry forgot the <sarcasm></sarcasm> tags, although I would have thought it > was painfully obvious to most people. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:291587 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
