On Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:35 AM, Larry Lyons <[email protected]> wrote: >>Shinseki was wrong in 2003 and is still wrong. >>Patreous is the most respected and his surge worked in spite of >>Shinseki's poor vision and planning. > > > Really, how many soldiers did he recommend? and how many were sent in the > surge? The two sets of numbers fairly match up. Several hundred thousand for humanitarian purposes. If he was a visionary he would have been preparing them for a counterinsurgency.
The surge, I forget was it 20,000 after years of infighting to the point where insurgents turned against al Qaeda. I wonder if time was the only thing that would have worked. > As for his poor vision and planning, it was more Rumsfeld and his pet yes men > generals etc that were responsible for followup planning. Shinseki did the > initial assault, which succeeded brilliantly. You make it sound like Tommy Franks was already retired. > It was the follow through that Rumsfeld, Fallon and Sanchez planned that such > as mess. When Shinseki wanted PRT's to come in after the initial operation > were ended, that was turned down by Rumsfeld's people saying they were not > needed. Shinseki may have wanted them but he never asked for them. >>> trying to fix the shambles that is the VA administration. >> >>By making soldiers pay for their own medical insurance? > > That was never seriously considered. It was officially announced and then withdrawn a day later. >>You just lost half the countries support by changing the name. At >>least your half is happy now. > > What support. Bush managed to piss off the vast majority of the US allies. if > his policies were continued I seriously doubt whether any real allies would > be left. Look how much the US had to pay the most of the members of Coalition > of the Willing in order to get them to send even a token force. That's a delusion the press made you believe. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Adobe® ColdFusion® 8 software 8 is the most important and dramatic release to date Get the Free Trial http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;207172674;29440083;f Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:292993 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
