Dammit Larry...stop it...you are making more points I agree with... :D

On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 12:25 PM, Larry Lyons <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> >> WillBo wrote:
> >> these guys over the side i don't know. But this tripe about how they
> >> *need* to be pirates  is wholesale bullshit.
> >>
> >
> >There are 3 ways to deal with this:
> >
> >(1.) Tough guys.  Law, and blow you out of the water, and we're
> >badasses, and etc.
> >
> >That has a few executive options:
> >
> >  (a.) Naval patrol.  However there are over a million square miles of
> >ocean to patrol (which isn't free).  If you read that article you'll
> >notice that it took our Navy, who were obviously in the area, 3 HOURS
> >to reach the victim. 3 hours!
>
>
> Look at the area, its over 4 times the size of Texas. That the ship (which
> can go about 40 mph or so) took only 3 hours to get there is pretty damn
> good. The Bainbridge was hauling ass.
>
> Besides a real naval solution would be to use convoys. Go from the Indian
> ports to Aden, then to Mobassa. For every 20 or so cargo ships you have 1 or
> two frigates, at least 2 or 3 helicopters and 8 missile armed drones, like
> the Predator. You also have at least 3 or four other warships on patrol
> within 50 -75 miles. Then train the crews to disable the ships very fast and
> have them barricade themselves in the engine room. That way the patrol ships
> only have to deal with any pirates on board, and not have to worry about
> hostages. Also have an international declaration that any vessel not a part
> of the convoy or not authorized to be near, will be fired on without
> warning.
>
>
> >
> >  (b.) Ship's Security.  This would be hiring Blackwater of some such
> >to "ride shotgun".  Problem there is that it's both expensive and will
> >create an arms race.
> >
> >  (c.) Arm the crew.  In general these are low paid, minimally crewed
> >ships, and very likely the ships would just sustain huge damage which
> >is also expensive.
> >
> >  (d.) Attack the coast.  That's probably not going to be very popular
> >on the World stage.
> >
> >
> >(2.) Nice guys.  Send in some diplomats, but really special forces,
> >and see if you can find someone local that can control the situation
> >while you're pretending to negotiate and pay them a bunch of money.
> >It's a tried and true technique IF such a person exists.  Of course
> >that's who Bin Laden is, so it can backfire.
> >
> >
> >As I've said, personally I'd pick #2 at this point since the risk with
> >being a tough guy is that you create a Robin Hood.
> >
> >Overall, the problem I see with the PEOPLE strutting around like tough
> >guys is that they don't seem to understand what the feck they're
> >talking about.
> >
> >Which makes them very similar to the people who strutted around
> >talking tough about Hussein
>
> 

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