OK, so once again...its bad to scare someone, but OK to kill someone.  I
think this is finally making sense....NOT.
Can we make the same rules for the touchy feely, asking for the information
nicely people too?

On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 7:16 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > Stroz wrote:
> > But, its not OK to make me feel like I am drowning to get me to tell you
> > about the same attack?
> >
>
> The question is moot because you don't KNOW the person KNOWS; that's
> why you're torturing them.
>
> But let's see if we can find a nexus of agreement, so how about this?
>
> We would agree that, say, soldiers and police and Secret Service are
> volunteers.
>
> And we would agree that they volunteered to put their life on the line
> in defense of citizens (or the President).
>
> So how about this?
>
> Just as a Secret Service person will take a bullet to save the
> President, let's have the torturer make the same call: if he truly
> believes that the information he'll get will save lives, then he'll be
> executed for violation of law.
>
> In other words, the American must be so morally certain of his actions
> that he's willing to die.
>
> That way we don't violate our ethics and principles and the great
> information you claim torture will provide will be made available.
>
> 

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