or this one:

https://www.alwaysinnovating.com/touchbook/gallery.htm


On Apr 26, 2009, at 6:45 PM, Jerry Johnson wrote:

>
> Some of the netbooks are tabletpcs, very little drive space, no cd rom
> drive, but huge screen, tablet, and decent battery lide
>
> http://www.google.com/products/catalog?hl=en&q=tablet+pc&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=8121975893056445951&ei=WfH0Sc3dB5OktwelmNS6Dw&sa=X&oi=product_catalog_result&resnum=4&ct=result#ps-sellers
>
> as an example of a picture
>
> picture a lawyers leather portfolio for size and weight.
>
>
>
> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> but you still have to sit upright foro that right and kind of hunch
>> over? It's the ergonomics I am trying to solve -- otherwise I would
>> just use my laptop.
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:16 PM, Zaphod Beeblebrox
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> not as much as it sucks to read them on portable devices.  I have  
>>> the
>>> Sony eReader and while I love it for text/eReader formats, I hate it
>>> for pdfs.  For the price of a sony eReader, you could get a netbook
>>> which would do a lot more.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Apr 26, 2009, at 4:54 PM, Dana wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ah. I ask because it sucks to read a 500-page pdf on a laptop...
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> No, if you need PDFs, or pdf-like books (intense images  
>>>>> possible), i
>>>>> would recommend _anything_ else first.
>>>>>
>>>>> This thing is basically a pulp-paperback replacement device.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, I don't know of any hand-held ebook readers that handle PDFs.
>>>>>
>>>>> iPhones maybe, tablet pcs, sure, but Sony reader has limited PDF
>>>>> support (they dont look very good), Kindle cannot handle PDFs (you
>>>>> can
>>>>> try to convert them to MOBI format, but that does a poor job with
>>>>> graphic-intense pdfs). The ebookwise reader can handle html with
>>>>> images embedded, but the image quality kind of sucks. Dont try to
>>>>> read
>>>>> a flowchart.
>>>>>
>>>>> (That is why I read PDFs on my laptop, not a portable reader  
>>>>> device.)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Dana <[email protected]>  
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I got one it would be for technical reading for  
>>>>>> certifications so
>>>>>> markup matters to me. Of course these are mostly pdf format also,
>>>>>> so.... can you convert?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Jerry Johnson <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It can, but i never do (i dont do it in real books, either).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bookmarks I have set, but I tend to built a toc myself off the
>>>>>>> ebook,
>>>>>>> and add it to the front.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I use the book in 3 basic modes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> pleasure reading - 85%.
>>>>>>> news catchup - 10%
>>>>>>> tech lookup - 5%
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a memory card that has a bunch of tech manuals for the
>>>>>>> technologies I might run into on any given project, I can pop in
>>>>>>> if I
>>>>>>> need to do a lookup, or need to do some tech reading during  
>>>>>>> lunch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have an rss/html program I wrote to grab the blogs and feeds I
>>>>>>> want
>>>>>>> to read, and generate an imp file. I used to use this every  
>>>>>>> morning
>>>>>>> before I commuted to work downtown boston on the train. doesnt  
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> used much anymore, as my laptop is waiting now after my 20 foot
>>>>>>> commute these days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the form factor for me is very important. I love the size and  
>>>>>>> hand
>>>>>>> feel of the ebook, the large swale on one side (mimicking a  
>>>>>>> folded
>>>>>>> back paperback in form) allows effortless reading for hours  
>>>>>>> (even
>>>>>>> though it is heavier than the kindle). I love the 2 buttons.
>>>>>>> (up.down), and I love that that is flips over with a single  
>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>> click so I can switch from right hand to left hand as needed.
>>>>>>> (important for long afternoon reads in the hammock)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:36 PM, Dana <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> so it is important that it feel like a book? Can you underline,
>>>>>>>> highlight, bookmark, etc?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Jerry Johnson
>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I bought in early. Have an original Rocket e-book (1998),
>>>>>>>>> replaced it
>>>>>>>>> with a GEMstar (2003), and now have an eBookwise ebook (2007).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Love it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Would not want to spend a week without it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bought and gifted 6 of them so far.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No color, cannot handle pdfs (has own imp format). Tiny
>>>>>>>>> annoying power
>>>>>>>>> plug (loved the original Rocket docking station)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Backlighting rocks. lasts for 25 hours+ of solid reading on a
>>>>>>>>> charge.
>>>>>>>>> handles html wonderfully.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> and when it's on sale (89 or 99 bucks), it is a steal. even at
>>>>>>>>> 109 it
>>>>>>>>> is worth it.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I did NOT like the original kindle for ergonomics, buttons,
>>>>>>>>> looks,
>>>>>>>>> etc. the new one is improved, but still not a "book".
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And I cannot justify a sony.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ebookwise.com/ebookwise/ebookwise1150.htm
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 4:05 PM, Dana <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Do you like it? Do you recommend it? What do you wish it did
>>>>>>>>>> that it doesn't do?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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