On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 12:19 AM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> > Dino wrote:
> > the news or anywhere close. No Feds in it at all. Just local forces. And
> the
> > results would have scared the average citizen something fierce.
>
> Really?  Seems like people in this country don't give a shit about
> government run amok anymore as long as it's in the name "security":
> spy on citizens, suspend habeas, torture ... whatever.


You assume that there was something wrong with the raid. You assume some
civil rights were violated. Why? Has Bush so scarred you that what may well
have been a totally up and up operation is labeled "government running
amok"?


> You ever read the amendments to the Constitution?

How does the prevention of soldiers being quartered in your house apply
here?


> I hope we're on our way back to America, but 25% of people in this
> country still seem to have more in common with extremists that the
> America I grew up in.


How old are you? I remember when it wasn't safe for me to weak my Yarmulka
on the train for fear of being attacked. When I was doing security systems,
my boss told me that if I was going to come with him on a certain job I'd
have to take my Yarmulka off because the client wouldn't like it. The client
was the NAACP. I remember some lady driving up and seeing no problem with
saying "hey kike, where's XXX street". How would a black member of this list
like to hear someone ask them "hey nigger, where's XXX street"?
But that was 20 years ago and it has gotten better, not worse. How many
lynchings have their been in the last dozen years compared to the dozen
before and the dozen before that? How many abortion doctors have been killed
in the last dozen years compared to the dozen before? (I assume that the
murder of George Tiller is part of your view of American extremists)

I think that you're seeing the extremist members of this nation being shown
as more extreme than any other generation and you're taking it too far.
We're MUCH better now than we were. Not perfect by far but better. We're not
on our way back to America. We ARE America. Good, bad, ugly, pretty, better
and worse. One president did not destroy us and another president will not
re-make us. Both are part of the growth of this country. Personally, I'm not
ready to go back to the America of "No Jews Allowed"

And 25% seems really, really extreme. Are you lumping all members of a
religion or political party into a single group? Am I in that group?


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