See, now I want to own a Suburban, and idle it on West Adams Street (at the corner of 
South Jefferson St.) for hours on end.

I think I'll drive around tonight for absolutely no good reason.

Half kidding,
Jerry Johnson

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/30/02 05:41PM >>>
My definition of an Energy Crisis: a society dependent on energy that is
provided from an area plagued with war and religious fanatics. Dependent on
energy that could quite possibly be turned off like a light switch.

And yes, your SUV does directly affect me. I don't have any scientific
evidence on hand, but common sense tells me that a vehicle which burns a
significantly higher amount of fuel will also emit a higher amount of
pollution. We DO know that combusting fossil fuels causes pollution right?
This is pollution that we all have to breath. I myself prefer oxygen.
Another way that it directly affects me is right from my paycheck. Your
vehicle causes more damage to the roads and creates more traffic. Guess who
pays Buck to sit on his ass on the weekends, making double-time, to "work"
on those roads?

Again, the last thing I want are more laws that restrict you from being the
true american you so desire to be, but don't think I'm not going to call you
a gluttonous ass for choking my friends and giving our country a bad
image... just because you want to.

Adam.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:15 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee
> 
> 
> Energy crisis? Where?  Gas is dirt cheap now? $1.29 a gallon?  I am
> considerate for others.  I don't cut people off, or run them over.
> Whether I choose to drive a suburban or an insight has no 
> direct affect
> on you.
> 
> There is big difference, littering is illegal, driving a suburban is
> not, at least not yet anyway.  Give the environmentalists time though.
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cantrell, Adam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 4:05 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee
> 
> Kevin, the last thing I want to do is restrict you from being a true
> american or whatever. All I'm saying is that people should try to be
> considerate for others. You know that your vehicle choice affects
> others.
> You may not care about the energy crisis that is just now 
> beginning, but
> others might.
> 
> When I go camping, I know I probably won't get caught if I leave my
> garbage
> all over; but in consideration for others, I choose to clean it all up
> anyway.
> 
> Adam.
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:50 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Jeep Grand Cherokee
> > 
> > 
> > "And this seems to me a responsible use for the vehicle."
> > 
> > Nothing personal, but who made you the authority on deeming what's
> > responsible and what's not?  I use my Explorer (wife has 
> the Suburban)
> > for my daily commute.  I don't consider it irresponsible.  
> > Sure I could
> > make the same commute in a tin can but I choose to drive that 
> > car.  The
> > beauty of American, freedom of choice.  
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:50 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: Jeep Grand Cherokee
> > 
> > > I remember Beth, when you were all over me about taking 
> my truck to
> > the
> > > UK, but it's a tie to my old life, not an ego thing with me 
> > ... I love
> > > my truck like I love my pets. You may think this is really 
> > scary, but
> > I
> > > actually pet my truck and give it occasional hugs. My wheels have
> > always
> > > had a very special meaning in my life, they mean my independence.
> > 
> > LOL!  I know this about you, and I understand this, although 
> > I only hug
> > and
> > talk to my bikes.  I do occasionally pet the car when the dog 
> > has taken
> > a
> > particularly large chunk out of the upholstery.
> > 
> > 
> > > Sure it's big, and extravagant, but it's mine. Or, mine 
> and Philip's
> > > now. :) And since mass transit is so easy, I'll be saving 
> > hundreds of
> > > dollars in gas bills, keeping the truck just for outiings.
> > 
> > And this seems to me a responsible use for the vehicle.
> > 
> > As I said, I have no problem with folks owning SUV's - I own 
> > one too. I
> > do
> > have problems with folks poopoohing the environmental issues 
> > our country
> > faces and I do think that bragging over whose SUV is bigger 
> > is incredbly
> > stupid....and incredibly AMERICAN!!
> > 
> > But you aren't of the sort.  None of that was directed at you.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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