On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:01 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I think you have a very short memory. Who sicked the army on peace > activists? The last I remember, Bush went out of his way to express his > opinion at what a great country we have precisely because people are free > to express their opinions and protest the government. oh http://www.democracynow.org/2009/7/28/broadcast_exclusive_declassified_docs_reveal_military > And I have always expressed my belief that people of all stripes should be > able to express their opinions, it is a core principle of a free society. so the facts as outlined above -- assuming they are true -- are NOT ok? Is that what I am hearing? >As for the WH intent, it's a short step from collecting email addresses to putting that >information through Echelon and finding out everything about the people on the list, >then using the appartus of government and friends in the media to destroy their lives. True, but he can do that anyway if he really wants to. But ok. Supposing Evil Obama were to do such a thing, that would be bad. >Whether anyone would actually do that is irrelevant. The mere possibility of such >abuse makes the entire enterprise a political land mine, which is why I am so >surprised they even made the suggestion. Eh. It's bit Hitler youth. It's one thing to campaign for the guy and another to work for him for free after he is elected, I feel. But if someone feels moved to write in and say blog ex say you eat babies from breakfast, I really don't have a problem with that in and of itself. I would want to know if someone was saying that kind of stuff about me, The key point is whether the president issues a refutation or has his staff complain to the web host, or simply sends in the Men In Black. But I feel the need to point out again that there is no quesiton what Dick Cheney would have done. -----Original Message----- From: Dana <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2009 4:27 PM To: cf-community <[email protected]> Subject: Re: you too can become a snitch for Obama oh.. I think you are drnking the koolaid again. Why is it ok to sic the > army > on peace activists and this is not? Do you seriously think they are > advertising a surveillance campaigm? On their website? UM. I suspect they > want a heads up so the president doesn't look stupid at press conferences, > and who can blame them? I do think it has a kind of true believer edge t it > and I don't plan to participate; I also do see some potential for abuse if > the wrong person had the info, which may or may no happen, but should be > treated as if it will, just because > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 1:23 PM, Robert Munn <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 12:10 PM, denstar wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Remember when I said once we give up the power it's pretty hard to get > > > back? > > > > > > Can you blame them? Crap man, anyone who's read any history at all > > > saw the danger right away: > > > > > > "Give us the power to protect you" -- sure. > > > > > > > We've been over this territory before. There were far more powers assumed > > by > > the government during the Civil War and WWII and those powers were > > eventually surrendered. This is totally different. There is no national > > security interest in reporting people's exercise of free speech to the > > White > > House. It's a purely political move designed to help the Administration > > push > > their policy goals. The irony is that they are using Big Brother tactics > to > > respond to criticism of their legislative goal of health care reform that > > is, rightly or wrongly, being criticized for its Big Brother qualities. > > That > > kind of stuff just plays into the hands of critics who see nothing good > in > > the creeping power of the government. > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:301597 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
