Specifically, in this case, those direct quotes from Nancy Pelosi.

I really want to track that one through people's minds.

Is that tactic OK?

But also the claims that Obama is secretly trying to turn the US into a
Muslim country, with Sharia law. Including powerpoints. And that he is a
Muslim. And that they are taking all the guns. And that he was not born in
the US. And the plan to tax inheritance at 100%. And the plan to force towns
to take illegal aliens, and instantly give them a vote. (and the moon
landings were faked). And Clinton promised North Korea 50 million dollars.
And the forced abortions. And the euthenasia of old people.

Some of which are couched in scare tactics and what-ifs and exagerations of
actual postitions. I don't like those, but admit that they are part of
politics today. But those same arguments, lately, are couched very
specifically as facts, with quotes and Bill numbers, and secret gubberment
documents quoted. None of which are correct or factual. No longer just "they
want to take your guns", but "on November 7th, all unregistered gun owners
must surrender their firearms, or face arrest". And those passing them on do
not every care if the facts are correct or not, if the "feel right", or
support that person's beliefs.

Now, getting agreement on WHAT are outright lies and what are half-truths
and what are creative license and what are dead solid facts might not be
easy to all arrive at, but FIRST, the question of ARE LIES OK in this, I
cannot get a straight answer.

Disputes on actual legislation are AWESOME. _THAT_ is what we SHOULD be
doing. And the more light we bring into the actual legislative process, the
better I personally believe the legislation will be. But all of this crap is
distracting us from the actual work that SHOULD be debated. That is what is
driving me nuts. And no, it isnt just Republicans doing it. But the emails I
have been seeing lately are nuttier, and more spread, and it seems like the
originators absolutely do not care one whit for the truth any longer,
thinking that volume and anger will hide the untruths. And I don't like it,
and want it stopped.


On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 9:32 PM, C. Hatton Humphrey <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> > Do you find outright lies ok?
>
> Here's my question: what are you saying are "outright lies"?  Every
> thing that I've heard said has been quoted paragraphs from the
> legislation itself or fully contextual quotes.
>


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