First.. > Sam do me a favor, instead of spending a ton of time on politics, say > a prayer for my daughter, that she gets healthy and strong and can > come home with her mommy and daddy who love her...
I have been praying for her, I just don't do it out load. Thank you in all sincerity, from the bottom of my heart, I appreciate, my wife appreciates it and my daughter appreciates it.. Second... You're reading a lot into what I've said and making some assumptions... The only way to dig out of the do nothing political quagmire that we've been in since the waning days of the Nixon administration, short of a third party gaining enough votes to win. Is for the center to finally exert it's dominance and push the extreme left and the extreme right to the sides, and obscurity, where they belong. McCain isn't giving in to anyone's demands, on the issue of healthcare, he realizes that the system is broken, and that both sides have some good ideas, the trick is to give and take a little to get the right legislation passed.. We know it's not in his nature to simply step and fetch to the party line, he won't do it. I'd rather have a Congress full of John McCains, then Nancy Pelosis or Michael Steeles who just parrot their party line and are more a part of the problem then the solution. Because I don't subscribe to extremes on either side, doesn't make me in denial it makes me look at individual issues and how they affect me and mine. I voted for Obama, not out of any great love for the democrats, but because 1) I stand to gain more from his tax plan 2) I could not stomach even the remote possibility of Sarah Palin as president, she scares the hell out of me, she's a theocrat's wet dream and she'd be the first one to tear up the Constitution and wipe her ass with the shreds, except maybe for Mike Huckabee... I think the whole issue of Obama's citizenship is a non-starter, it has no traction, we've seen a birth certificate, the governor of Hawaii has certified that he was born in the state, to give it anymore credence is to legitimize these fringe claims, why even cater to them, all it serves to do is create more friction in an already divided country. I feel that the extreme right is far out of step with the rest of the GOP, they've abandoned the fiscal conservancy, small government and "stay out of the boardroom and the bedroom" cornerstones of the GOP in favor of theocracy, legislated morality and over the top spending. They'd set the US back 500 years if they came into any real power. You're very wrong if you think that I'm some kind of leftist democrat, I'm not by any stretch of the imagination Finally... > 1) small government... I pay my taxes, other than that leave me the hell > alone, what I do is no one else's business unless it's blatantly illegal Unemployment is skyrocketing as are government jobs. You should be angry. I am, I'm furious because I have to spend the majority of my time looking for contracts instead of sitting fat and happy with a single employer, and having to watch my wife's paycheck get eaten by health insurance premiums, because as an independent contractor I have no health insurance. She also can't be a stay at home mom like she wants to because we need insurance. But.. the mess we're in now didn't happen overnight, and it didn't just happen in 100 days, it's a result of the band-aid fixes and blunders of the last five or so administrations. There's plenty of blame to go around but I don't think Obama should get the lion's share of it. I don't agree with some of what he did, but he did something... > 2) I'm free to believe what I want, and I want it to stay that way, we know > that theocracy doesn't work, look at Iran and Saudi Arabia. America is a > secularly governed nation for a reason, to protect the rights of all.. Agreed. > 3) balance the budget, cut the pork and stop wasting money, period BOTH > SIDES You must be pissed? Why aren't you more vocal about what's happening? Mainly because I'm just one person, and screaming at both sides is like pissing in the wind. Until there is a real change in the way that the system works, we'll continue to trade one kind of wrong for another. > 4) It is the government's responsibility to take care of those who truly > cannot take care of themselves, or who truly need a helping hand, but do it > in a way that is difficult if not impossible to abuse. Good. > 5) the healthcare system is broken, I'm going to take a HUGE financial hit > when my daughter gets out of the NICU, why? Because insurance isn't going to > cover everything and the cost of care has spiraled out of any sort of > control. They should cover most. You might need to cover the donut hole. God I hope you're right, otherwise I may be looking at bankruptcy.. > 6) Defend the country when she truly needs defending, restore the strength > of our intelligence community.. If we had a strong intelligence community > 911 may not have happened and Iraq would've been a blip on the radar. I was arguing that for years, but you probably wouldn't have agreed. Not with Iraq, and I really have to place that squarely on W's shoulders, he had the ear of the top military advisors in the world (the Joint Chiefs) he could've just said "Here's what I want, go do it, if you can't I want to know why", but instead he listened to Donald Rumsfeld who with little military experience thought he knew more than the Joint Chiefs, and Dick Cheney who stands to gain personally from a protracted war. The entire Iraq conflict should've been a covert operation where a pro western government was set up in exile, with the funds to back it up (and the mullahs paid off or eliminated), and then Saddam dies suddenly of a "heart attack" and this new government steps in. Al Queda.. same thing, gather the intelligence, put the people in place, insert a strike team and it's Osama Bin Who? But our intelligence gathering has sucked since the 80's.. thank you Aldridge Ames... We may agree on more than a few things, but the talk of things like Obama's "death committees" and the like is just ridiculous. People need to spend more time finding real answers that work for the long term.. -- Scott Stewart ColdFusion Developer 4405 Oakshyre Way Raleigh, NC 27616 (h) 919.874.6229 (c) 703.220.2835 -----Original Message----- From: Sam [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2009 12:54 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: hahah..birther's want to know if Barak is circumcised.. On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 8:57 AM, Scott Stewart<[email protected]> wrote: > > No Sam... I've said it before... > Centrist... C..E..N..T..R..I..S..T.. I look at issues, parites any more are > antiquated and meaningless to the majority of people. > Centrist.. Which is what the VAST majority of American people are. By saying we should follow the McCain's and give in to the lefts demands doesn't make us centrists, it makes us weak. The vast majority takes some from each side, that doesn't mean they all agree with McCain. I prefer Rudy myself, but Moynihan was my favorite. There are plenty on the right and left that don't like any of the three I just named. > I do not subscribe to the extremes of either party. You've done what so many > on the extremes do, because your claims have no basis in fact or reality you > respond with evasion, double speak and redirection, and no factual > validation. I guess it beats denial. I could do what you do and close my eyes to everything except Jon Stewart and assume the non-believers are stupid. > The world is grey, my friend not black and white. I can be with you on some > issues and against you on others.. Doesn't make me your enemy or an enemy of > the state. America was built on dissidence and the questioning of the status > quo, but it was also built on truth. I'm one of the few on this list that looks at both sides of an issue. I'm not a birther, but I look at their claims and say he they aren't nuts. They're asking a fair and legitimate question. Most others just say how dare you question Obama you racist. Trust him. > The truth is based on cold hard facts that will not wash out under the light > of scrutiny, the far right doesn't seem to get this... so they result to > fiction and scare tactics some of which are so outrageous that they border > on laughable. Why are we talking about the far right? How about the far left? Do you think Obamacare is perfect and you need to be a right-wing nut job to even question it? > Sam you don't question, you accuse and throw out "talking points" almost > verbatim from the websites that you post.. I really think your brainwashed > and disconnected from reality. I search for articles that back up my premise. That's brainwashed to you? I am definitely disconnected from your reality. > " Why does the right always have to move to the left but the left is > only expected to get more radical. > > > Because the right is so far to the right that it's no longer in tune with > it's own constituency or with anything but the very fringes of the general > public. Same goes for the left. The old guards need to step aside, and > realize that government is about the majority not the fringe... That's the stupidest thing I read in a week at least. You can't really believe that? It was on the Daily Show so it must be true. > "Compromise is when both parties move to the middle." > > This is probably the most intelligent, truthful thing (politically speaking) > you've said since the election. > > BTW: John McCain would've won as an independent, with a strong running mate > like maybe Colin Powell (IMO). The guy that endorsed a democrat with no experience? You think so? McCain didn't have the support of the base and neither did Powell. So your vision of the GOP is to drop all it's principles and support the DNC whenever asked? And you think that's a centrist position? You call me brainwashed? I'm sure that came form Stewart also. > 1) small government... I pay my taxes, other than that leave me the hell > alone, what I do is no one else's business unless it's blatantly illegal Unemployment is skyrocketing as are government jobs. You should be angry. > 2) I'm free to believe what I want, and I want it to stay that way, we know > that theocracy doesn't work, look at Iran and Saudi Arabia. America is a > secularly governed nation for a reason, to protect the rights of all.. Agreed. > 3) balance the budget, cut the pork and stop wasting money, period BOTH > SIDES You must be pissed? Why aren't you more vocal about what's happening? > 4) It is the government's responsibility to take care of those who truly > cannot take care of themselves, or who truly need a helping hand, but do it > in a way that is difficult if not impossible to abuse. Good. > 5) the healthcare system is broken, I'm going to take a HUGE financial hit > when my daughter gets out of the NICU, why? Because insurance isn't going to > cover everything and the cost of care has spiraled out of any sort of > control. They should cover most. You might need to cover the donut hole. > 6) Defend the country when she truly needs defending, restore the strength > of our intelligence community.. If we had a strong intelligence community > 911 may not have happened and Iraq would've been a blip on the radar. I was arguing that for years, but you probably wouldn't have agreed. > I'm tired, and short tempered today.. I have a daughter in the NICU to > attend to... > > Sam do me a favor, instead of spending a ton of time on politics, say a > prayer for my daughter, that she gets healthy and strong and can come home > with her mommy and daddy who love her... I have been praying for her, I just don't do it out load. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? 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