by the way, I found this interesting: One Republican insider told Politico<http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0909/27208_Page2.html>: This is an organization that has attracted attention before . Basically, ACORN gets federal money, and it advocates for the liberal, Democrat agenda. Thats wrong, and we need to stop it. http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/09/16/what-is-the-acorn-controversy-about/ On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:44 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
> Clearly you don't get in this type of mess by following best practices. I > didn't say the charges were nonsense. I said I am not sure there's tax fraud > there. I just read one comment about the 9600 figure -- if that was what she > was supposed to be making then, after breaking away from a pimp, that might > have been a suggestion that she commit tax fraud, that's true. > > If it was supposed to be a historic figure, well, is it really her income > if the pimp takes it away from her? That's the crux of the matter, and it's > a legitimate question. When I had it, by the way, I was a contractor for the > Department of Education and it was an official request for guidance from her > college financial aid advisor. I asked for guidance before answering the > question and though that was quite a while ago the thinking is unlikely to > have changed much. A prostitute is supposed to report her income and > essentially make a good faith effort to do so truthfully, knowing that she > might be audited. So it is not tax fraud to help her do that. > > The heart of the matter is whether the pimp is taking the money or she is > giving it and whether he truthfully is doing anything to earn it. Since it > turns on coercion it has to be answered on a case-by-case basis. The answer > in my Pell grant scenario was that the application was likely to be flagged > and that would require a review of her application and situation by a human > being at the community college financial aid department. So if they believed > that she honestly had not had the use of the money, that was what counted. > > There does seem to be be some turning of a blind eye going on in these > ACORN encounters. But prostitution is a reality in these neighborhoods. > I guess these employees may have known people who were involved, and > possibly did not see it as wrong. That *is* a problem though. I am thinking > that it would be against public policy to make a loan to a young woman who > is going to have to break the law to make the payments so if these are FHA > loans that's a problem, and even if they are private lenders, there may be > some regulatory controls that are being flouted. I don't think that's ok, > but I see this in greyscale personally.... > > I am still looking at the Brooklyn transcript. > > > > On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Sam <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> Did you not read that congress voted to remove funding, the employees >> were all fired and now ACORN offices nationwide are closed for >> retraining? >> >> But the charges were nonsense :) >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 6:18 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > Sam you can google and find *anything* on the internet. >> > >> > Actually, in the short time I was associated with ACORN I registered >> quite a >> > few Rebublicans. >> > >> > Low income housing led to government takeovers? WHAT are you smoking?? >> > >> > Overloading the welfare system? where did that come from? It's already >> > broken, Sam, it has been for decades, but where exactly do you figure >> ACORN >> > comes into that? >> > >> > By the way, I just read the DC transcript. Mention of girls, nothing >> about >> > their age. The woman tells them they cannot get a loan without >> documentation >> > then says well, here's my card, since you are a nice guy trying to get >> her >> > out of the life, call me later and I'll try. >> > >> > Huh. Obviously a threat to society. >> >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:304283 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
