You aren't listening. Again. I am done with talking to you.

On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:22 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> I get, I really do.  ACORN and its employees can do no wrong...ever.
> And, on the occasion when they do happen to do wrong, its OK. ACORN
> does so much good they get a free pass.
>
> Again, if this was a conservative organization doing the same thing,
> you would be screaming bloody murder.
>
> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:15 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > I am not defending it, just pointing that it appears to be technically
> true.
> > And also that it makes no sense. If she thinks her income is AGI is 2,000
> > why is she even thinking about dependents? I don't plan to leap to a
> > conclusion here. There is enough of that happening already. But hey, it's
> > more fun to point fingers and snipe, I understand. It is also, as I
> pointed
> > out much earlier in the thread, pointless mental masturbation.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 6:08 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Wow. Just. Wow.
> >>
> >> You are actually defending the advice that the pimp should declare the
> >> underage sex slaves as dependents.
> >>
> >> I am speechless, truly speechless.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > You are so determined to see things through the lens of your own
> ideas.
> >> >
> >> > It is hard to tell what they were thinking. (and note that when it
> comes
> >> to
> >> > what we have seen so far, we are down to a single encounter in which
> >> > underage girls acting as prostitutes are mentioned) One of the two
> >> workers
> >> > in Baltimore was quite emphatic in saying that those girls need to go
> to
> >> > school. They aren't helping that couple house sex slaves; based on the
> >> > information they are given (which it was illegal for them to disclose)
> >> the
> >> > couple plans to do this and no assistance from ACORN is requested in
> >> doing
> >> > so.
> >> >
> >> > The discussion about whether they are dependents seems quite amoral
> but
> >> it's
> >> > legally correct I think. They would be providing more than half of
> those
> >> > girls' costs. They would be dependents with an income. And it would
> also
> >> be
> >> > a bad idea to claim them. But that too makes no sense. If she heard
> 9600
> >> > how does she think this gets paid for?
> >> >
> >> > Someone more idealistic (me for instance) might have said the hell
> with
> >> the
> >> > law, this is human trafficking and it's wrong, and called the police.
> We
> >> > don't know that they didn't right now but had they done so.... would
> it
> >> have
> >> > helped? Maybe they planned to do their own sting at the seminar these
> two
> >> > said they wanted to attend. Who knows? The phrase "make it legal" is
> >> > unfortunate, but what is actually proposed is a way to *report the
> >> income*
> >> > legally.
> >> > Here is what I do know. I spent a couple of hours *actually looking at
> >> the
> >> > supposed proof* and I find myself incredulous. Those two women in
> >> Baltimore
> >> > don't seem terribly smart, but the story they are being told rings
> false
> >> on
> >> > several levels. And so does theirs. A two thousand dollar income? That
> is
> >> > not going to get you a house. Were they just shining them on or what?
> >> >
> >> > Here is what I don't see -- anyone saying yay, let's crash the welfare
> >> > system and collapse the housing market. Let's get together and import
> sex
> >> > workers! Hurray hurray an opportunity to cheat Uncle Sam out of some
> >> money
> >> > does not occur anywhere in that video or transcript either.
> >> >
> >> > If you and Sam would care to step back a minute from the selective
> >> outrage
> >> > and the hyperbole you might note that I've already said that firing
> them
> >> was
> >> > the way to go. You have to, unless they called someone immediately
> after
> >> > this and we haven't heard about it yet. From there to sweeping
> >> condemnation
> >> > of an entire group and all its efforts ... well. I know your way is
> more
> >> > fun. Don't expect me to take you seriously though.
> >> >
> >> > I've spent enough time on this drivel.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 5:29 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> > I think we are still shading into advice on money laundering tho...
> >> and
> >> >> it's
> >> >> > hard to know what to make of the discussion on the girls.
> >> >>
> >> >> Really?  Its hard to know what to make of giving advice on how to
> >> >> declare sex slaves as dependents? Really? You are not sure where you
> >> >> stand on that?
> >> >>
> >> >> It astounds me the lengths you are going to to defend the actions of
> >> >> these people. But, then again, they are from ACORN, I guess that
> gives
> >> >> them a free pass for just about anything.
> >> >>
> >> >> Out of curiosity, where is the line, that if someone from ACORN
> >> >> crossed it you, would be outraged? Because helping someone house sex
> >> >> slaves doesn't seem to be there quite yet.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> Scott Stroz
> >> >> ---------------
> >> >> Reality is for those who lack imagination.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://xkcd.com/386/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
> 

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