On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 8:26 AM, Sam wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 4, 2009 at 2:52 AM, denstar wrote: >>> That's a lie. C02 is plant food not pollution. Pollution is a >>> different story. We all want to stop pollution. >>> Nice try. >> >> The question is, could "we" be changing our environment? > > No it wasn't
It is the question at the heart of the debate, esse. So, are we? You gonna say we don't have a measurable impact, like Rob apparently is? >> You acknowledge we pollute-- are you certain that this pollution (that >> we all want to stop, but not /too/ much, cuz, we'd be out on the >> street, cuz we're unskilled and need to pollute to compete) couldn't >> change our climate? > > Now you're blurring the subject. As far as CO2, our skills reduce the > amount of gasses released. The reason we can't compete is you don't > want to let us (plus cheap labor). You'd rather let China and India > pollute the world as long as the US didn't have any factories. You > would be so proud of that. "Plus cheap labor" --- yeah. That's a tough one. :) I think they call it "leading by example", tho I don't practice that. Do what I say! You can create stuff without wrecking the environment at the same time, they're not mutually exclusive. >> Perhaps affecting the atmosphere? Water temperature? > > Google wanted to change the water temperature. Yahoo! >> Things that might affect climate? > > Cloud seeding? Awesomeness. >>> A fact that there are no facts? >> >> Heh. Remember when you were a kid, and things were so certain? >> Marvelous what time does, ain't it! > > You will grow up eventually, don't give up :) I'm not certain of much, but my senses tell me we do have an impact. My senses tell me we've changed the face of the earth. So, what about that tree food with a lack of trees to eat it? >> That cool tech that's going to save us is pretty hip now, neh? >> Odd how it all works, economies and ecosystems and whatnot. And screw >> it- maybe everything is fine, and we won't somehow kill off bees (or >> if we do, it will turn out they weren't *that* important, anyways), or >> whatever-- out of "leftie" science we get cheap solar power, *tons* of >> people willing to "get on board", blah blah blah > > Hold on there partner. You think lefties are responsible for energy > efficiency? I guess that means righties have been fighting tech all > along? I think if the lefties had there way all factories would be > closed, thanks to the rest, we have cleaner and more efficient tech. Oh, yeah, I remember now! -- during the "height" of the Right (Bush43), the environment was *so* politically correct. Just *tons* of energy credits and whatnot, right? The government was bending over backwards to get us off oil during those bright days, right? Right? >> With "rightie" we got "having sex is bad", and "stem cells are people >> too", and clean air acts that, oh, I don't know-- I guess I should go >> look it up and be sure that the environment didn't get a whole lot >> better under the last administration, as this might just be dogma I'm >> spewing. > > You're clouded world sees yourself as rightous or is that leftous? and > the rest are just stupid and or evil. You should start by removing > labels from your thinking, it's not a sharks vs Jets world. There are > lot's of Mari Mari? Line monster, and I can't guess the rest. Due to my eyeball placement, it's really hard to see all of me at once. Mirrors are cool and all, but you know that saying about smoke and mirrors. Seriously tho, I label groups of people, not people themselves. For all our individuality, we still group together like a freaking survey. I can tell you this: I think that the energy credits are swell. I think gay marriage is dandy. I think our kids should have a chance to live in a world as beautiful as mine was (at least). I don't like an invasive government. I don't like a non-transparent government. Yadda yadda and blah blah blah. Hell, we're all like 99% the same when we get down to brass tacks, neh? It *is* fun to pretend differently tho, I guess. I've labeled you "Sam", BTW. It helps to keep me from mixing you up with Someone Else. Heh. Randomness: The "Someone Else's Problem" cloaking device. (the dude's a prophet!) -- The superior man makes the difficulty to be overcome his first interest; success only comes later. Confu ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:309079 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
