You're correct, but I had not used any insults in this discussion. Yes she starts the insults on this one, and usually does so when she cannot make her point.
I'm perfectly willing to have a discussion without insults, but many on this list appear incapable of doing so. On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:45 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm usually behind on you on most points L.C.L. But I have to call hypocrite > with your last statement. You're no stranger to insults. In fact very few of > us resist the urge to insult our peers on the list. > > As far as evidence, well you're right. I would ask you this though: In this > case specifically, after all these years, what would be the family's benefit > to faking it? > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> What valid evidence that this facilitated communication works, or is >> it just a function of the facilitator's expectations? The data are >> very clear on that, facilitated communication is bogus science. Its >> nothing more than what the so called facilitator thinks, for a summary >> of the research that demonstrates that, see, >> http://tinyurl.com/yzugd5f. >> >> As for the insults you do appear to use them when you cannot >> demonstrate your point. >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 12:14 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > we should just trust you, right? Cause you know. And we should have faith >> in >> > you ;) >> > >> > I'd almost feel bad for how ridiculous you sound, except that you did it >> to >> > yourself ::shrug:: >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] >> >wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> You really need to read up on why facilitated communication isn't. I'm >> >> not going to rehash the old tired story, except to say that its been >> >> shown that facilitated communication isn't. From the videos I've seen >> >> of the guy, more than half the time he isn't even looking at the >> >> keyboard or screen. Enough said. Unlike some on this list I do not >> >> follow faith based science. >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > he can't accept that answer because it was family members in the other >> >> case >> >> > also. >> >> > >> >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> For me the fact that it's family members, and more than one, I think >> >> adds a >> >> >> certain degree of credibility to it. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 12:41 PM, Larry C. Lyons < >> [email protected] >> >> >> >wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I'm quite skeptical of this case. Its great that the man was able >> to >> >> >> > be rediagnosed as locked-in syndrom rather than minimally aware >> >> >> > syndrome or being in a peristant vegitative state. But other than >> that >> >> >> > there may be no great change. He still cannot communicate in any >> >> >> > meaningful way. It would appear that all the communication is being >> >> >> > done through a "facilitator." >> >> >> > (http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/091201-coma-victim.html). >> How >> >> >> > do we know whether its the patient or the so-called speach >> facilitator >> >> >> > who is communicating? >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > I saw a doc on this recently. Can you imagine the frustration >> that >> >> >> would >> >> >> > > cause. Perfectly functioning brain combined with total paralysis. >> I >> >> >> > > shudder to think of how awful that would be. >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Vivec <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> Actually...did anyone read about that guy who was in a coma for >> 15 >> >> >> > >> years supposedly braindead, but with new methods they recently >> >> found >> >> >> > >> that his brain was quite active, and for those 15 years he knew >> >> what >> >> >> > >> was going on around him? >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> 2009/12/6 Dana <[email protected]>: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >>Your accusation is quite interesting considering this is >> coming >> >> from >> >> >> > >> >>someone who thinks its ok to keep someone who's brain has >> rotted >> >> >> away >> >> >> > >> >>alive by artificial means >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> > bla bla bla.... no evidence needed for you on that one..... >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >> in a form of half life does make me want to >> >> >> > >> >>puke. What next have anyone who does have a living will >> >> persecuted? >> >> >> > >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:309145 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
