sigh. What a shame they never did a rediagnosis then and proved them wrong. Just saying.
On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 9:35 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>wrote: > > I'm not saying that he isn't in a conscious state now. I am > questioning the communications mode. I think that the re-diagnosis is > very good, especially using the new techniquest not available in the > mid 80's. > > But yes people will spend years fooling themselves in these > situations. Look at Shaivo's parents for instance. Until my brother > died, my parents were absolutely convinced as well. Wishful thinking > is very powerful, it allows the person to ignore or dismiss all sorts > of contrary evidence. > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:27 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > Understood. However don't you think this would've manifested much much > > earlier? It's been like 15 years or something hasn't it? That's a bloody > > long time to be fooling oneself with false hope don't you think? Just > > asking. > > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 11:21 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected] > >wrote: > > > >> > >> Hope - that in spite of everything that's happened to the guy, he > >> will eventually come out of things OK. > >> > >> They're not faking anything, I think. In all likelihood its a > >> desperate hope that he's there and not some very badly damaged shell. > >> So they look and see a random movement as "proof" that he's conscious > >> and able to fully communicate. Their expectations put meaningfulness > >> into what may entirely be random nerve firings. > >> > >> One thing I wonder a bit is if beyond everything and he is "normal" > >> how normal would be be - imagine trapped in your body, you cannot > >> move, or do anything except state at the wall. How long would someone > >> stay sane in that situation. > >> > >> A bit of personal disclosure here. When I was quite young, my eldest > >> brother was in a coma which he never came out of. So I think I kind of > >> understand what the parents are going through. Its a very forlorn hope > >> and I really hope I never have to go through anything similar again. I > >> have a living will set up already requesting that if I am in such a > >> situation, that any and all support be terminated. This includes > >> removing all food and water. > >> > >> That all said, apparently he may be able to respond to yes /no > >> questions by tapping a button with his foot. if so then he can > >> interact with the outside world, and you can set up a modified BLISS > >> system to help him communicate. > >> > >> larry > >> > >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 10:30 AM, Michael Grant <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > > >> > Ok, fair enough. > >> > > >> > I'm still interested to know your thoughts on this though: > >> > > >> >> As far as evidence, well you're right. I would ask you this though: > In > >> > this > >> >> case specifically, after all these years, what would be the family's > >> > benefit > >> >> to faking it? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:309180 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.5
