>
> So what do you do when you're on vacation in the boonies and the
> messenger pigeon comes with that "the world will collapse in on itself
> if program X isn't doing Y by Z time"?
>

This is a little hard to follow. If what you're asking is what I think the
answer is that "I'm on vacation. Sorry." Any vacations I take are either a)
I'm available and therefore will have my laptop. or b) "How did you get this
number? Don't call here again." type vacations. Plus I guess I just don't
work on stuff that's as critical as you. For me I get a job, come up with a
timeline, finish it, move on. Regardless though, what difference does that
make on whether I develop locally or on a dev server?


> Sounds like a pretty boring decade (or you are very lucky), but
> whatever flicks your bic.  :)p


Really? How often do you lose your connectivity? And if you do, for how
long?


> I don't /have/ to rely on anything but me.  You /can/ rely on
> anything, but with my way, you don't /have/ to.


I guess. However if I manage the server remotely, and admin CFServer and
SQLServer I don't see how I'm not relying on myself. The only link in that
chain I don't control is connectivity, and as I said, I can trust it's
reliability.


> Plus you learn stuff it never hurts to know (sorta like learning HTML
> even though you could just use a WYSIWYG editor).
>
What the heck are you talking about Denny? How am I learning more by setting
up SQL server locally instead of remotely? The same for CF server? That
doesn't make any sense.


> But I *love* knowing how stuff works... a lot.
>
 Something we can agree on.


> It'd be painful to not know if I'd changed something, or if someone else
> had.
>
 Agreed. That's why one keeps docs and change logs. Not using versioning
software doesn't mean it's development anarchy.


> With your set up, you're putting a lot of faith in stuff you cannot
> "see" (and apparently been pretty lucky thusfar-- but it *is* luck),
> which is fine and dandy, but I prefer to make as much of my own luck
> as possible.  To keep the "luck" contained to things like gravity
> working and whatnot.
>
So you figure the folks at the co-location company just bumble around
changing peoples servers and such? I understand your argument metaphorically
but in reality it's not all the valid since I can know I can trust a) my ISP
to keep my connected and b) my co-location provider not to fiddle with my
machine.


> It's a trust issue.


See above.


> And a sanity/memory issue.


Not sure I follow. My sanity remains in tact (well, as much sanity as there
is to begin with).

Perhaps you have the wrong view here Denny. I develop on a dev server and
don't use versioning software. That doesn't mean there's no structure or
logic. I have a dev server. I back up the files and db's on the regular. I
keep detailed documentation about all projects I do. I keep detailed change
logs and assign my own version numbers so there's never any confusion. For
me, it's fairly simple and quick. I don't waste my profits on bloated
processes and setup. Would this be an ideal situation if I was developing
Facebook with 50 other devs? Defo not. But it seems to work pretty good for
me. I'm not sure why you are jumping to such conclusions about how I develop
apps. I just don't feel like taking a day per machine to set up CFServer,
SQL server et al. Nor do I feel like giving up a bunch of processing power
to accommodate that stuff locally.

Know what I'm sayin?


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