Problem is that most people here in the states support Israel because it fits in with the Christian end times scenario. If Israel does not occupy Jerusalem and rebuild the Temple, no 2nd coming.
I dont support Israel because I think they are no different than Hamas other then they use their military to terrorize people. We need to cut off support completely, especially after this most recent incident where they essential told Biden to go fuck himself. Netanyahu state that 3,000 years ago, Israel built Jerusalem...well 2,000 years ago, the Romans kicked Israel out and until a little over 50 years ago, Israel didn't exist. Not a very strong argument. Israel has no interest in a peaceful solution with Palestine. They would rather act like a spoiled child that always gets her way since the US blocks any action taken against Israel (who, BTW, has had more UN resolutions leveled against her than Iraq had...). I think the appropriate action for the US now would be to suspend all aid until Israel complies with all agreement and stops encroaching on Palestinian lands. That is not anti-Semitism btw...that is justice. Tikkun Olam! Eric -----Original Message----- From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, March 24, 2010 2:58 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Obama power drunk on the Middle East With the amount of people with an irrational hatred for Jews and Israel out there, do you think that the program is not heavily watched? No, that's not a persecution complex. Like I said, the aid is a lightning rod. But you're right, of the 2.7 billion (for 2010) that is given to Israel in the form of military aid, there may be room to wiggle. The law stating that 'most' purchases must be approved by congress states most, not all. But there are rejections to requests that are outside of this conversation. I stated that tech was one of the benefits of the relationship. Not the only and not on a 1:1 relationship. To say that the situation is complex is to degenerate the word complex. When the US needed Israeli armor for Iraq, they hit a firestorm because it was Israeli and the deal had to be routed 'under the covers'. The counter-terrorism knowledge given to the US (and no one else) is also fuzzy. We give, we get, we hide, we seek, it's a relationship. And going back to the basis of this thread, Obama's actions are not helping that relationship. On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 2:30 PM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote: > > There is not a government program in existence for which "every single > cent" is accounted for, and even IF that were the case here, US > funding of any part of the Israeli budget frees up money to fund > research. Frankly, I don't care if the US gives money to Israel, I > just find it a specious argument that we are somehow getting all this > great tech in return. > > On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 11:07 AM, Michael Dinowitz > <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> We're not talking actual money here. It's not as if America is >> delivering a crate of bills. We're talking 'credit'. Public credit. >> Credit linked to an aid package that is ALWAYS used as a point against >> Israel whenever the topic comes up in almost every location. Even >> here, every time Israel is talked about, that aid is mentioned. Do you >> really think that a single cent is not accounted for? >> >> -- >> Michael Dinowitz > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:313876 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
