Read it :)

-----Original Message-----
From: William Bowen [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2010 5:32 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Heinlein


For the record "For Us, The Living" was Heinlein's first book, written
in 1938 and not published until 2003.

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>
wrote:
>
> All of his books from his later career was like that, The Number of
> the Beast and The Cat Who Walks Through Walls, Friday, To Sail Beyond
> the Sunset, For Us, The Living: A Comedy of Customs etc had all
> essentially the same characters, more of the same philosophical rants
> etc. It really dragged down the writing.
>
> And this is coming from a fan who all all of his books in one form or
> another including his final one, Variable Star, that Spider Robinson
> finished from notes and an outline.
>
> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 1:47 PM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> IMO, you couldn't be more wrong.  The deep philosophy in all of his
>> books goes way beyond a mere libertarian rant.  If This Goes On is one
>> of the best books ever on the dangers of Religious zealots.  The Moon
>> is a Harsh Mistress nails the idea of too much government control.
>> There are discussions of gender acceptance, medical ethics, cloning,
>> etc. in I Will Fear No Evil, Time Enough for Love and Friday. the
>> topics that were life changing for me - theology and politics - in
>> fact, most of my political views that are not directly Jeffersonian
>> are derived from Heinlein's ideas.  I will admit I got a bit bored
>> with some of the sexual aspects of his later works, but they didn't
>> take away from the beauty and power of the his philosphy.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 9:58 AM, Larry C. Lyons <[email protected]>
wrote:
>>>
>>> After Stranger in a Strange Land, I think that Heinlein just rewrote
>>> the same book over and over again. The characters were the same (at
>>> times they were the same character), the situations almost the same
>>> etc. They became libertarian polemics rather than anything decent.
>>> They were becoming so predictable that I'm surprised no one came up
>>> with a Heinlein novel generator based on a mad lib game.
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 12:31 PM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> maybe it's the "in your face part", think of that. In Stranger in a
>>>> Strange Land I kept think yes yes we understand that you are all very
>>>> liberated and unconventional. So what? I like my protagonists a little
>>>> more complicated. They're both important figures in science fiction,
>>>> don't get me wrong, but we are talking Willie Nelson vs.... I dunno,
>>>> John Mayall.
>>
>>
>
> 



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