there are several slipperey slope fallacies there...

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> You will need to forgive me for misinterpretting this:
>
> 'But again, if you don't secure thing and you leave it wide open,
> don't be surprised when someone
> comes it.  Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over
> it and saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure.'
>
> As you saying 'she deserved it'...it seems like a logical conclusion
> to me. To me, saying a victim 'deserved' what happened to them, is the
> same as defending those who perpetrated the crime.
>
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Eric Roberts
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I don't recall seeing anything defending anyone coming from me...so either I
>> was typing in my sleep or you're toking on some good stuff over there
>> Scott...  My point was that if you don’t use proper security, then don’t act
>> all surprised when someone does hack you.  That is common sense.  Other than
>> mailboxes in apartments and other multi-family dwellings, I haven't, but
>> that doesn't meant hey don't exist obviously.  When most people think
>> mailbox, however, they are thinking of your standard, non paranoid, single
>> owner type.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]]
>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:29 AM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!
>>
>>
>> I cannot believe that you guys are actually trying to defend the
>> invasion of someone's privacy. Is this Bizaro World? What's next? Sam
>> touting the benefits of Obama-care?
>>
>> BTW - I have seen mailboxes that have an opening to put mail into, but
>> also a door, with a lock, to get it out.  Still, lock or not, it is
>> illegal, and I believe a felony, to open someone else's mail.
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Eric Roberts
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's even a bad analogy.  The mail box isn't locked and cant be (or how
>>> else does mail get in), while your email is supposed to be secured.  If
>> you
>>> want to stick to the snail mail analogy, then maybe a PO box and you leave
>>> your key hanging on the box at the post office.  But again, if you don't
>>> secure thing and you leave it wide open, don't be surprised when someone
>>> comes it.  Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over it
>> and
>>> saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure.
>>>
>>> Eric
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Medic [mailto:[email protected]]
>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:54 AM
>>> To: cf-community
>>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty!
>>>
>>>
>>> I don't really think comparing it to breaking into a house is a very good
>>> analogy. I think it's probably more accurate to equate it to taking mail
>> out
>>> of someone's mail box. I believe this is a felony. And if someone did it
>> you
>>> would blame the victim by saying "well the mailbox wasn't even locked."
>>>
>>> I think it sucks that some kid who guesses a password gets time, but it's
>> a
>>> crime and a massive, premeditated invasion of privacy. We need to protect
>>> that privacy, especially now as we're losing more and more of it.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> 

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