You have reading problems Scott? (Another argument against homeschooling I guess)... I though I made it quite clear, as did Dana, that we never said it was ok. Yes she does bear some of the blame as she was negligent in making sure her account was secured...which is her responsibility. If someone in your company uses poor password encryption and vital data gets hacked because of it, how long is that person going to keep being employed there?
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 10:24 AM To: cf-community Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! Between you andEric, it seems you guys are saying that because she did not use good security measures AND that the kid found info that might indicate illegal activity on Palin's part that it is OK that he did this and that Palin herself bears some blame for being hacked. Does that sound right? On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:18 AM, Dana <[email protected]> wrote: > > there are several slipperey slope fallacies there... > > On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:16 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> You will need to forgive me for misinterpretting this: >> >> 'But again, if you don't secure thing and you leave it wide open, >> don't be surprised when someone >> comes it. Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over >> it and saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure.' >> >> As you saying 'she deserved it'...it seems like a logical conclusion >> to me. To me, saying a victim 'deserved' what happened to them, is the >> same as defending those who perpetrated the crime. >> >> >> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 10:46 AM, Eric Roberts >> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I don't recall seeing anything defending anyone coming from me...so either I >>> was typing in my sleep or you're toking on some good stuff over there >>> Scott... My point was that if you dont use proper security, then dont act >>> all surprised when someone does hack you. That is common sense. Other than >>> mailboxes in apartments and other multi-family dwellings, I haven't, but >>> that doesn't meant hey don't exist obviously. When most people think >>> mailbox, however, they are thinking of your standard, non paranoid, single >>> owner type. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Scott Stroz [mailto:[email protected]] >>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 9:29 AM >>> To: cf-community >>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>> >>> >>> I cannot believe that you guys are actually trying to defend the >>> invasion of someone's privacy. Is this Bizaro World? What's next? Sam >>> touting the benefits of Obama-care? >>> >>> BTW - I have seen mailboxes that have an opening to put mail into, but >>> also a door, with a lock, to get it out. Still, lock or not, it is >>> illegal, and I believe a felony, to open someone else's mail. >>> >>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:54 AM, Eric Roberts >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> That's even a bad analogy. The mail box isn't locked and cant be (or how >>>> else does mail get in), while your email is supposed to be secured. If >>> you >>>> want to stick to the snail mail analogy, then maybe a PO box and you leave >>>> your key hanging on the box at the post office. But again, if you don't >>>> secure thing and you leave it wide open, don't be surprised when someone >>>> comes it. Not leaving it secured is akin to putting a neon sign over it >>> and >>>> saying come on in...especially if you are a public figure. >>>> >>>> Eric >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Medic [mailto:[email protected]] >>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 5:54 AM >>>> To: cf-community >>>> Subject: Re: Palin email hacking case - guilty! >>>> >>>> >>>> I don't really think comparing it to breaking into a house is a very good >>>> analogy. I think it's probably more accurate to equate it to taking mail >>> out >>>> of someone's mail box. I believe this is a felony. And if someone did it >>> you >>>> would blame the victim by saying "well the mailbox wasn't even locked." >>>> >>>> I think it sucks that some kid who guesses a password gets time, but it's >>> a >>>> crime and a massive, premeditated invasion of privacy. We need to protect >>>> that privacy, especially now as we're losing more and more of it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Want to reach the ColdFusion community with something they want? Let them know on the House of Fusion mailing lists Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:317226 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
