Man, i agree.

It really comes down to....how much of what makes this country great and
free, are you willing to trade for what is ultimately an illusion of more
security?

Maybe i'm just an idiot, but i much prefer a slightly more dangerous FREE
society, to a slightly safer police state.

On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Judah McAuley <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> People who are trying to appear tough on illegal immigration support
> this. The theory is that if we have one national id card and everyone
> is required to carry it that it will be easy to tell who isn't here
> legally. Personally, I think this flies in the face of the 4th
> amendment, but that interpretation has been being chipped away at for
> a long time. I'm also one of those cranks who balks at giving people
> his social security number for anything and everything. I wouldn't let
> them use my SSN as my id number in college and so we had to go through
> a whole big thing about issuing me an alternate id.
>
> If I'm hanging out and not doing anything illegal, it is no ones
> business who I am. Period. If a cop thinks I am doing something
> illegal, I'll tell them my identity information. If they feel the need
> to verify it while they are following up on whatever it is they think
> I did wrong, that is their choice. I don't have to make it easy for
> them. They can arrest me without having iron-clad proof of who I am,
> they can arrest me based on my behavior.
>
> I also think it is wrong to require someone to show government issued
> id in order to fly on a plane or ride a train. The courts and
> government disagrees. But in my opinion, you should be judged on what
> you do, not who you are and it is wrong to require identification for
> the purpose of travel and free association.
>
> Judah
>
> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:52 AM, William Bowen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> So who does support this?
> >
> > I don't think anyone does, except maybe Casey :-)
> >
> > I certainly don't support this type of measure.
>
> 

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