I have about as much respect for ID as I do for $cientology.
On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 10:52 AM, Kris Sisk <[email protected]> wrote: > > >For what its worth, Intelligent Design does not necessarily even deny > >speciation. Really depends on who you ask. The discussion we were > >having involved Kris' distinction about what he termed micro-evolution > >(change within a species) versus macro-evolution (speciation) so > >that's what I addressed. Intelligent Design, as I understand it, in > >its broadest incarnation is a dispute with the Natural Selection > >portion of Darwin's theory of Evolution. Natural selection is not a > >directed process (though not random as many ID folks would have you > >believe) and ID proponents posit that evolution happens through a > >directed process, not natural selection. > > > >A discussion about whether natural selection could produce the variety > >we see in nature, the notion of irreducible complexity and the > >counter-arguments about why directed evolution is not a useful > >argument is a whole 'nother long email that I don't have time to go > >into now. > > > >Cheers, > >Judah > > Micro-evolution and Macro-evolution are just the terms I've had the most > exposure to, probably because they're favored by Lee Strobel in particular > (he's a journalist who interviewed a lot of scientists, but not a scientist > himself, and one of the most prolific ID authors). I'm really not suprised > that the scientific community has different terms since those terms were > really meant for communicating with laymen. > > And yeah, I've said before that there's nothing in ID theory that says > evolution can't be possible. It's just the 'random chance' aspect, or put > another way natural selection, that ID objects to. > > Great way to put it Judah. > > And for what it's worth I really didn't want to start another creation vs > evolution debate. I was just pointing out that most creationists (I did say > all, but apparently that's not quite accurate) don't believe life to be > static and unchanging. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology-Michael-Dinowitz/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:320701 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
