On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:37 AM, Medic <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Well it completely depends on exactly how instant replay would be used. If
> it's used like I described earlier than I think it would be helpful.
> Stopping play to dispute calls however would destroy the game.
>
> As far as the "fake injuries" comment I have a few things to say about that.
> First I think you are lumping a few things together.
>
> 1.Simulation: where players dive to get a call or roll around on the ground
> when there was clearly no contact. This is the worst part of the game in my
> opinion. Some of it is cultural some of it not. FIFA does try to stamp this
> out but it's tough. As long as there are fouls there will be players
> simulating being fouled in an attempt to gain an advantage for their squads.
> Some coaches encourage it, some coaches will pull you of the roster if you
> do it.

Yea, sorry, from my perspective, its as bad as its every been.

>
> 2. Actually getting fouled. A lot of people that haven't played think that
> every time a player rolls around on the ground for 30 seconds then gets up
> and continues to play is faking it. Trust me, there are many many many times
> when you take a knock that hurts like hell for 15 or 20 seconds then the
> pain subsides. It's the way the human body works. It doesn't mean that every
> time a player needs a second after getting fouled that it's a fake injury.
> There's a pretty damn big grey area between no injury and breaking a leg.
> And also if you take a knock and go down and then there's no whistle it's
> clear the play won't stop and you damn well better get back up and help your
> team unless you really have hurt yourself bad. Remember you only get three
> substitutions you can make for the whole 90 minutes. That alone means that
> you really need to play through injury if you are capable.

We are talking about adults here. Professional athletes. There is no
injury that would cause a grown man to roll around for 30 seconds like
he has been shot and then instantly heal so they can run away as if
nothing happened.

>
> Also this doesn't generally affect the flow of the game as the ref will only
> blow the play dead if he believes there is a head injury. Most players if
> they see a player down will kick the ball out of bounds and then the
> opposing team will return the ball once play continues. And that's also why
> there is added time at the end of the half. If there's been three minutes of
> "rolling around" then the add the appropriate amount of extra time.
>
> I agree that I hate to see players that fake it, but I think you'd be
> extremely hard pressed to find a fan that doesn't hate this part of
> football.

I like the way the NFL handles it, though I struggle to see how FIFA
could implement something similar. If play is stopped for a player
injury, that player has to sit out for at least one down. They
implemented this rule to stop guys from faking injuries near the end
of the half/game to basically get a free time out so his team can get
set up and stop the clock.

>
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 10:01 AM, Scott Stroz <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I had this discussion with another soccer fan and they told me that
>> instant replay _would_ disrupt the pace of the game. I then asked him,
>> 'Oh, and all the acting and fake injuries do not disrupt the pace of
>> play?' He had nothing to say there.
>>
>> Kind of sad that FIFA tolerates the bullshit acting but drags their
>> feet on stuff like instant replay.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:50 PM, Cameron Childress <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sun, Jun 27, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Vivec <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> If they have goalline replays and replay technology at the
>> Worldcup...then
>> >> they have to have it in our School Leagues....
>> >> in ALL the games that run up to the World Cup and in ALL local league
>> >> matches where players and teams that end up in the world cup play.
>> >
>> > Isn't that like saying that the Olympics should be scored by hand and
>> > time should be counted in the heads of the refs?  Just because some
>> > countries that participate don't have equivalent technologies?
>> >
>> > Training for and playing soccer is universally easy.  You need a ball
>> > and a giant field.  Two paper cups at the end for goal posts.  That's
>> > how so many kids play the sport, why don't they do that too for the
>> > world cup?
>> >
>> > The reason instant replay isn't int he World Cup is because it would
>> > disrupt the game, not because it's technically impossible or because
>> > some country can't afford video cameras.
>> >
>> > -Cameron
>> >
>> > ...
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
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