I never said he had an agenda, but rather merely pointed out that he
hadn't reacted the same when the shoe was on the other foot.

I personally am not against the death penalty, but I would be more
persuaded to see someone suffer life in prison, if I saw them truly
suffering, rather than watching cable TV and playing sports, working out
etc.  I think prisoners have way too many luxuries these days.


Of course we won't bother to get into the hypocrisy of supporting
abortion and being against the death penalty and vice-versa.


I once saw a bumper stickers on a car that said:

"Meat is Murder" and "Pro-Choice"

<cf_gross_point>
I wanted to ask the driver if I ate aborted fetuses if it would be
wrong?
</cf_gross_point>


-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Haggerty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 2:27 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol

In Ben's defense, capital punishment is the ultimate conservative
viewpoint.
I have trouble seeing an agenda in his comments.

Let's all play nice... some of us are active in anti-death penalty
causes
and prefer not to be referred to as pansies.

One could argue the real pansies are people whose insecurities rule them
to
the point the need to see others die to have a sense of justice in this
world.

M

-----Original Message-----
From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 1:21 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Librals Suck ~ lol


Ben,

I think we both know, that the name calling has gone both ways on this
list.  I myself have been guilty of it, however I have yet to see you
ostracize someone when the person guilty of the name calling was
pointing it in the direction of someone with a more conservative view
point.

Kevin


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 12:17 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol

Nate-

Where do you get off calling names ("pansy liberals")?

We have a strong tradition on this list of agreeing to
disagree, but respecting each others' opinions.

Some of the people on this lists are liberals, some are
moderates, some are conservatives.

We have some lively discussions, but not name-calling.

Also, your venting might benefit from use of a spell
checker.

-Ben

> Regardless, charges would need to be brought forward for such a case
to be
> brought to court.  If consensual, who is filling the charges ?
>
> Your parents against your gf or bf ?   I guess you should have payed
more
> attention to their rules.  Also - likely this would be dropped, and if
not -
> sentanced with a probation or community service, as minors wouldn't be
> charged as adults for such an act.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Beth F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2002 11:22 AM
> Subject: Re: Librals Suck ~ lol
>
>
> > -----
> > >
> > > Hmmm, how old where you and your girlfriend when ....? Both over
18?
> > > Even if it was consensual, I presume it was :), was it legal?
> > >
> >
> > Most states in the US have a consensual age of 16.  This means that
an
> adult
> > can't have sex with anyone under this age legally. It does NOT mean
that
> two
> > 14 year olds doing it is illegal.
> >
> >
>



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