Here's the posting...

Matt, I posted this on another friends wall but it's applicable here as
well. I have no evidence that this man today saw or heard Palin or Angle. It
is simply anecdotal, Palin had cross hairs on one of the people shot today.
This bothers me. There was a case involving abortion doctors,"Planned
Parenthood of Columbia/Willamette, Inc. v. American Coalition of Life
Activists (2002)" where a group put up wanted posters with doctors picture
on them and had a web page that highlighted what they considered critical
offenders. It was ruled in this case that this speech was considered an
"imminent threat" in violation of the law because the doctors were named.
The group never called for violence specifically but when violence was
committed against one of the doctors on the wanted posters by someone who
had seen the web site the producers of the site were prosecuted. Palins
cross hairs naming specific people and Angles comments made me think of it.
It in no way calls for violence specifically but the symbolism is violent
just as a wanted poster is. Look this is not my theory this is an actual
case. Words have consequences and people in the public eye should know
better. BTY I support the second amendment"

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Barnes [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Sunday, January 09, 2011 17:12 
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: Democratic congresswoman shot in the head at point blank range.


"if there was a muslim in detroit who put up a map with crosshairs over
congressmen."

Did you mean suppose instead of "if".


"If that Muslim in Detroit then went on television and held public rallies
advocating his supporters to Get locked and Loaded, to get on target to
remove these congressmen, and when they fire they should Reload and Come
Again.... and one of those congressmen got shot...(and the gunman tried to
reload and come again actually) would that Muslim still be walking the
streets a free man right now?"

In our PC country, he probably would be free and the media would be chomping
at the bits to defend him.


"Would there be any question as to a portion of blame, or whether an
investigation had to be launched?"

If the person were shot by a Muslim, maybe so.  But Muslims should not be
blamed before the investigation.  If it turned out to be a Buddhist, it
would be a big shit storm.

Oh, and what about the bullseye the Daily Kos put on her.  That count for
anything or is it "different"?  I would think that the shooter was a reader
of that site more than redstate.


"Please."

I concur.  Please.


"BTW whether US wants to face it or not, the question of the Tea Party and
the GOP inciting this violence is the most asked question worldwide,
including on Facebook."

Not this shit again.  Over and over again, this has been debunked.  The only
people questioning it left wing pundits, the media, and their drones.  The
rhetoric of violence doesn't exist.

Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be
an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party
adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other
Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and
having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November.
Having one's opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing
joblessness. - Mary Frances Berry

Look up Mary Frances Berry.  You'll see that she is not a right winger.
 BTW, facebook?  Really?


"You will recall that analysts from both sides decried that rhetoric and
warned that more radical members of these parties could take this seriously
because of the  authority figures that were making those statements. I even
saw a segment on BBC World talking about the slant that US politics were
taking after this rally where guys showed up armed to the teeth."

Nope.  Don't recall that at all.  I remember a lot of incidents of SIEU
thugs attacking and trying to intimidate tea party attendees and town hall
attendees.  BBC?  Really?  The organization where the chief admitted they
are too liberal and need to change.  I can see why you would use them.


"I cannot believe that regardless of what the motivations were, after
something like this has happened one cannot look at that rhetoric, hear it
and read it, and say that it is still ok."

Oh, the Tea Party did have something to do with.  She was a blue dog who
became even more conservative due to the movement.  She wanted to be
re-elected.  The shooter could not accept voting as his only recourse.


Just cause you wanted it to be a tea party supporter doing the shooting,
doesn't make is so.


J

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Most people prefer to believe that their leaders are just and fair, even in
the face of evidence to the contrary, because once a citizen acknowledges
that the government under which he lives is lying and corrupt, the citizen
has to choose what he or she will do about it. To take action in the face of
corrupt government entails risks of harm to life and loved ones. To choose
to do nothing is to surrender one's self-image of standing for principles.
Most people do not have the courage to face that choice. Hence, most
propaganda is not designed to fool the critical thinker but only to give
moral cowards an excuse not to think at all - Michael Rivero



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