> Turns out that the pensions aren't paid by the tax payer like one would get
> contributions from your employer into a 401k.turns out that it is deferred
> salary payment

Sorry, looking at the referenced documents I don't see that.

The article you linked to links to the final printed CBA documents here:
http://oser.state.wi.us/subcategory.asp?linksubcatid=1246&linkcatid=389&linkid=27

I'll admit, I only looked at the Education Association, State
Employees, Research Employees and State Prosecutors contracts, however
in each of them I found a section under "Benefits" called
"Retirement"... and in each of those sections the language is
practically identical (the section numbers are different):

Retirement

13/13/1 The Employer agrees to continue  in effect the administration of the
Wisconsin Retirement System as provided under Chapter 40, Wis. Stats., and the
appropriate Adm.  Code rules of the Employee Trust Funds Board.
13/13/2  For the duration of this Agreement, the Employer shall contribute on
behalf of the employee five percent (5%) of the employee’s earnings paid by the
State.
13/13/3 Effective July 6, 1986, the Employer shall pay the one percent (1%)
benefit adjustment contribution required by s. 40.05(2m), Wis. Stats.
13/13/4 Effective January 1, 1996, the Employer shall pay the additional three
tenths of one percent (.3%) employee share of the required benefit adjustment
contribution for general occupation employees.

There is NO language for a "pension".

Sorry folks, that's just bad reporting.  Where in the contract does it
say that the funds are coming from the employee?  I can't find it...
but then again it's a good beer day so I may have missed something!

Hatto

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