Not wanting to do the things that might be required to get him out of
power is not the same thing as wanting him to stay in power.  The
question "Tell me again why this man deserves to stay in power?" seems
like setting up a straw man. No one that I've seen was suggesting that
he does deserve to stay in power. On the other hand, there are very
good arguments against involving ourselves militarily in Libya. Those
are two issues that need to be balanced out and that isn't an easy
call, imho.

More than anything else, I'd like to see a relatively clear rationale
put forward by our country explaining when we will be interventionist
and when we will leave ourselves solely to economic/political
pressure.

Cheers,
Judah

On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Michael Dinowitz
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> I'm sure he thinks he should stay in power. Others are not saying he should
> stay in power but are saying no one should help the rebels remove him. Some
> are against air strikes, some are against arming the rebels, some are
> against the whole thing. What does that all say in the end. It says:
> "we want him gone but we don't want to do anything to make him leave"
> which is the same as leaving him in power.
>
> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Maureen <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>>
>> I haven't heard anyone say he deserves to stay in power.  Who is saying
>> that?
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 15, 2011 at 10:36 AM, C. Hatton Humphrey
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Tell me again why this man deserves to stay in power?
>> >
>> >
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/16/world/africa/16libya.html?_r=1&hp&emc=na
>> >
>> > MISURATA, Libya — Military forces loyal to Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi, who
>> have
>> > surrounded this city and vowed to crush its anti-Qaddafi rebellion, have
>> > been firing into residential neighborhoods with heavy weapons, including
>> > cluster bombs that have been banned by much of the world and
>> > ground-to-ground rockets, according to the accounts of witnesses and
>> > survivors and physical evidence on the grou

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