Yeah, the homeless population openly trading pills and other drugs openly in
the street doesn't exactly make for a Utopia either.

Other than the homeless problem, I have loved my trips to Portland and the
upper PacNWest.  There is definitely a green initiative there, and it was
there WAY before being "green" was cool/mainstream.  The focus on local
sustainability is great too.

Way off topic, but if you haven't been to the site of the Mt. St. Helens
eruption, you're missing out.  Mind-blowing place that is just now (barely)
getting back to active life after 30 years of dormancy.

On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 8:41 PM, Gruss Gott <[email protected]> wrote:

>
> Cameron Childress <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Portland has some GREAT public transit and very careful city planning
> > around density.
>
> Of course there's other things about Portland that aren't the best:
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42614045/ns/us_news-weird_news/
>
> 

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