On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Michael Dinowitz
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Every time they defended those borders it was considered a miracle. By the
> numbers and everything else, they should not have won. Today, the numbers
> against Israel are greater and the technology of their opponents are easily
> on par. The US sells weapons to just about every Arab state while chanting
> 'this will not erode Israel's defensive edge'. Obama sold 60 BILLION dollars
> worth of weapons to Saudi Arabia, including bunker buster bombs. I wonder
> who they will use them against.

Israel, without a doubt, has a military technology advantage over
anyone in that region. They also are the only country in the region
with nuclear weapons. Saudi Arab has a pretty impressive military
arsenal, to be sure, but I really don't think you can argue that
Israel doesn't have a distinct edge (and, of course, they need it
given the region).

> And what does it all matter when Hamas launches rockets into Israel? 9 miles
> wide means every part of Israel is a target and Hamas is more than willing
> to keep up their barrage. And if Israel does anything to stop them?
> International incident. World condemnation. Accusations of war crimes.
> You've seen it before and it'll just get worse.

When it comes to rockets, it doesn't matter if your country is 9 miles
wide or 90 miles wide. If someone is going to be lobbing rockets into
your country, the difference of a couple of miles is not going to
really matter. The 9 miles wide bit is a complete red herring and no
basis for arguing that that line is indefensible. I'd say that the
half-million Israelis living outside the green line is a much more
rational basis for changing the map. History has happened in the last
45 years and that needs to be taken into account. But "indefensible"?
That seems pretty laughable and I really don't think you'll find many
IDF Generals ready to line up behind Netanyahu and say "I can't keep
that border safe".

> People forget a simple rule. The Arabs can lose as often as they want but
> Israel can only lose once. That's why a defensible border is necessary.

"The Arabs"? Is that like "The Jews"?  Israel has countries in its
region. Each country has a different leadership, a different history
and a different relationship with Israel and with the sudden changes
in governments in the region right now, all of that is in flux. Jordan
is very different from Syria which is different from Saudi Arabia. And
if Israel wants to know what it's like to lose a country, they should
have a conversation with Lebanon.

Israel needs to be able to defend itself. Talking about "the Arabs" as
if they were all a single mass united against them isn't the way to
peace and prosperity. They have a truly difficult road ahead of them
just like the road behind them and it is beset with a lot of enemies.
Hopefully the changes that are sweeping through the region will change
that landscape and continue on to change things in Israel as well the
various Arab countries and we can finally move past the same points
that have caused everyone on all sides to be stuck for a generation or
more. Won't hold my breath though.

Judah

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